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Due to multiple solicitations, I took the liberty of taking just this excerpt from a central portion of the entire article. Please go to the source for the entire article.
1 posted on 10/29/2007 11:48:32 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

As a veteran who has been diagnosed with PTSD....”from my cold dead, and I mean DEAD fingers..”

Meadow Muffin


2 posted on 10/29/2007 11:52:12 AM PDT by rwgal
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; Squantos

ADHD, huh?


3 posted on 10/29/2007 11:53:41 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Let me get in here before the inevitable p!ssing match begins between NRA-GOA fanatics.

Instead of the usual counter-productive argument which is designed to divide allies in the gun freedom camp, how about we simply agree that ANY LEGISLATION that ANY LAWYER can write is going to be riddled with "INTERPRETATIONS" meant to insure confusion and endless litigation which we ALWAYS LOSE !!!

As plain as the wording of the 2nd is, we are still fighting an uphill battle to 'prove' what the obvious meaning is and has been for 200 years.

Lets simply put this POS bill where it belongs and get back to taking back our rights ...

4 posted on 10/29/2007 12:00:45 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (A few Rams must look after the sheep 'til the Good Shepherd returns...)
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To: neverdem
Is GOA lying to their members?

There is no bill to take guns away from veterans. If you have been involuntarily committed to inpatient treatment in a mental hospital, or a court has found you either a danger to yourself or others, or mentally incompetent to manage your affairs, you can’t own a gun under federal law. The feds want states to report these findings to the FBI for inclusion in the NICS check required when you buy a gun.

Again, how many vets with PTSD have been forced to submit to inpatient psych. care?

This isn’t about seeing a shrink, it’s not about family counseling, it’s not about ADHD, it’s not about whose taking psych. drugs. It’s limited to reporting cases where people have had a court or commission with due process protections finding them a danger to themselves or others, or sending to the a psych hospital against their will.

This bill came out of the Va. Tech. shooting, but there have been a number of other cases before that have attracted attention.

The GOA is being deceptive. You can’t invent your own name for a bill, describe it inaccurately, have people call their Congressmen about it, and then accuse those Congressmen of lying about not knowing what bill they are talking about.

7 posted on 10/29/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by NYFriend
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To: neverdem
Are Senate Offices Lying To You?

As if that would be a first

11 posted on 10/29/2007 12:20:29 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: neverdem

“Are Senate Offices Lying To You?”

Are thier lips moving?


15 posted on 10/29/2007 12:34:11 PM PDT by JoSixChip
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To: neverdem

“Are Senate Offices Lying to You?”

Does a bear go poo-poo in the woods?

Folks, we’re talking about politicians here; some Senators, some representatives, some just lobbyists for the NRA or the GOA but all politicians. Of course they lie! That’s how they communicate!
Never, never, ever believe what they say. Don’t even believe what they say they’ve done because someone else probably did it and now the politician who’s talking to you is trying to steal the glory!
As for those who think the NRA is perfectly capable of walking on water, let me disabuse you of that myth - the NRA lies too! But then, so does the GOA, so the proper thing to do is go read the bill yourself, then consider each and every part of it in a way that some liberal gun grabber might, because if it passes you can bet that some day a liberal gun grabber will read it differently than it may have been intended and they’ll use it to shove some new gun confiscation scheme up your . . .
The only way to avoid such an outcome is to make it an automatic death sentence for anyone in Congress to file, back or vote on any bill that contains any reference to guns, firearms, weapons, clubs, knives, bows, spears or large rocks. Even then some lawyer type would find some way to infringe on the Second Amendment.
Never give the government anything it doesn’t need. In most cases, we’d be better served if the government fell rather than give up more of our rights. Remember, while anarchy can be a bad thing it need not be. Tyranny, on the other hand, is always a bad thing.


17 posted on 10/29/2007 12:40:06 PM PDT by oldfart (The most dangerous man is the one who has nothing left to lose.)
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To: neverdem

I have been sent this ‘soliciation’ before and questioned whether the bill is actually called “Veterans Disarmament Act”... would imagine it is not the ‘official title’ and if one were to call a Pols office and inquire about the VDA many could say there was no such bill etc....
NOT defending ‘them’, just making an observation


27 posted on 10/29/2007 1:11:20 PM PDT by xrmusn
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To: neverdem

“Are senate offices lying to you”?
Get real man. I’m not sure I remember when a senator or their office aren’t lying.
Stealing and lying is a prerequisite for a senate office.
The further you go up the senate power grid the greater a lying turd you become.
Let’s see, the shoot down of the airliner over Long Island.
The Branch Davidians in Waco, The Clintons and their Chi-Com contacts?
All allowed by senators lying.
If the govt. or their people tell ya the sun sets in the west ya had better check it before believing it.


29 posted on 10/29/2007 1:25:38 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: neverdem

PTSD must be looked at closely. I believe that more information is coming out that the guy in Bahraine that shot those two girls and himself may have been PTSD so I believe that although I want everyone to own a gun let’s make sure that people are safe as well.


31 posted on 10/29/2007 1:31:25 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: neverdem
Anybody bought a gun lately? There’s a brand new question on the form regarding mental deficiencies.
32 posted on 10/29/2007 1:43:14 PM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: neverdem

ATF is an organization which is not needed.

It should be disbanded and its rank and file absorbed into the F.B.I. and local law-enforcement where they belong.

We don’t need a national police force, ESPECIALLY one which can create its own “laws”.

The ATF is the closest thing America has to Brownshirts.


40 posted on 10/30/2007 9:15:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: neverdem

Every fund raising letter from GOA gets posted as “fact” on FR.


44 posted on 10/30/2007 11:45:44 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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