Hey, the "Stuck on Stupid" and ADD comments are over the line, cut that out or this thread will be locked and sent to the Smokey back room.
Take a 15 minute time out (besides it's time for lunch)
Posted on 10/29/2007 8:28:33 AM PDT by Invisigoth
The Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Mormons and a few other faiths have three things in common – they believe in Jesus Christ, that He is the Son of God and that He died and was resurrected for our sins.
So what’s the problem?
The political pundits continue to try and make Mitt Romney’s religious beliefs a big issue as he runs for the Republican presidential nomination. Different denominations of Christianity are just that – different denominations – which means different worship practices of the same fundamental Christian beliefs.
Some people have commented that they cannot support Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon. When they are pressed to explain why that is objectionable, they stutter. Still others are skeptical of Mitt Romney based solely on hearsay or lack of knowledge about Mormons.
(Excerpt) Read more at northstarwriters.com ...
Surely you could tell that the comment was a JOKE and NOT an 'official position of the Church'?
;^)
EXPOSE it again: I missed it!
You are welcome, Damien.
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,The substance of Christian disagreement with Mormonism is the issue of Mormons proclaiming salvation 'can come' to the individual 'after all that the individual can do' as if a balance sheet to earn the right to God's Grace.
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Obviously had some kind of secret sin!
‘To know good and evil’ is a VERY small subset of the larger - ‘to be like GOD’.
Satan DID lie!
Are you a descendant of Adam&Eve?
Are YOU like GOD now?
Didja ever notice those Kingdom Hall’s don’t have any windows?
Feel free to eject me from your SLC controlled congregation, or what not, but I am still a Mormon, for I believe in Jesus Christ.
(And HIS commands which are found in our SCRIPTURES!!!)
--MormonDude(Channeling Warren Jeffs)
Gee, Elsie, I guess you better stop posting those long portions from the standard LDS 'scriptures' and quotes from Mormon founders 'cause you are now accused of not telling the truth posting their online documents. Bwahahaha, don't ya just love the convolutions some folks can take. Next thing they will claim the Joe Smith fabricated portions of Genesis I lift from their own websites are not true! LOL
You seem to have assumed that I've made an assumption.
But just WHY did that chicken try to cross the road in the first place?
Thump - thump
AWWwkK!
(Now he’s immortal!)
OK, did you flunk math? I didn't say, the "entire BYU campus." I wasn't even generic in referencing "BYU students." I was very specific as to how many students & faculty were on hand, and here I was citing a very specific Mormon blog posted by a BYU student in attendance (what? You think I would be there to welcome Harry Reid like over 4,000 BYU students & faculty?).
Boy, are you hypersensitive or what? Here, I merely repeated a few Mormon bloggers, and I'm disengenous? (do you always go around saying these things about Mormon bloggers you don't know?).
For the record, I repeated info from two sources as reported by Mormon bloggers. One of the bloggers said that about "one-fourth" of the students gave Reid a standing ovation. The other posted the following on Oct. 9:
I just returned from watching Harry Reid present a forum address at BYU. I really liked his presentation. In the introduction by President Samuelson, we got the usual rundown on life history and previous church callings...The crowd was very respectful as I had hoped. He enjoyed a hearty welcoming applause when he stood up, and a small percentage of the audience gave him a standing ovation as he finished. Thanks to Brother Reid for spending some time with us. If you would like to view the address, you can catch it on BYU-TV for the next two weeks or so."
Well, LDS posters keep reinforcing a message over and over: Parrot LDS leaders of the past? (And you are called a bigot, a liar, a deceiver). Parrot contemporary LDS bloggers (And you get called a liar, a deceiver, disengenous, "stupid," "ADD," and all kinds of names that reveal the moral character of the name-callers).
BTW, please note that the above-quoted LDS blogger said that the Harry Reid forum was going to be aired and re-aired on BYU-TV for "two weeks" this month. Now ya wanna explain why the BYU administrators and Salt Lake City LDS HQ (as I'm sure they have some liaison with BYU-TV programming) saw fit to pump Harry Reid repeatedly into homes on a national basis?
(Or are you now going to jump all over my case for "expanding" the focus to the national level, even tho it's BYU-TV which is force-feeding Harry Reid on America at-large?) Oh, and while you're at it, do you want to explain to all why LDS owned Deseret Book Publishing is still peddling Harry Reid's "testimony" as part of the Deseret Book published, "Why I Believe?" (2002).
I exposed your lie of asserting that BYU students were liberals supportive of Harry Reid by linking articles showing that BYU is the 4th most conservative university in the U.S....
OK, maybe you don't get it. You could cite me all the stats you want about, say, Catholic universities like Notre Dame (or Georgetown) being the 4th most conservative university in the U.S...but so what? The bigger question is: Is Notre Dame or Georgetown as conservative as it used to be? (Not even close)
My point? In case you didn't know it, every campus essentially has a new student body every 4-5 years. (I don't even know if your "4th most conservative university" rating was published in the last 4-5 years). All I was pointing out is that BYU doesn't appear to be as conservative as it used to be. (You disagree with that?)
I exposed your lie of asserting that BYU students were liberals...
I never said all or even most BYU students were liberals. (What? Are you seriously saying no liberals exist at BYU?) Anyway, "BYU students were liberals" are your words. It would be my contention, though, that both BYU students AND faculty are not as conservative as they once were.
I've read firsthand what one BYU prof is teaching in his class and I can tell you with 100% certainty that what this BYU prof is teaching is typical of what liberal profs are teaching nationwide...and that the old guard @ BYU would not have put up with this kind of content.
Also, I'd be interested in your take on this comment from the dean of the College of Family, Home and Sciences, David Magleby. How did Magleby recently describe Reid's then-forthcoming campus forum? Allow me to quote Magleby:
Senator Harry Reid...will be speaking at Tuesday's forum assembly. As Senate Majority Leader, he is the first member of the LDS Church to lead his party in either the House or the Senate. He is a convert to the church who is frequently described as a committed member of the church. Whether we do or do not agree with Senator Reid on any particular policy matter, he deserves our respect and appreciation for his long career in public service. Within the church there can be and should be room for disagreement about political matters. At the 1968 Commencement exercises President Hugh B. Brown encouraged students to "strive to develop a maturity of mind and emotion, and a depth of spirit which will enable you to differ with others on matters of politics without calling into question the integrity of those with whom you differ. Allow within the bounds of our definition of religious orthodoxy a variation in political belief. Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent."
So Magleby, who already knew Reid's position on protecting marriage (or rather as NOT protecting marriage), saw fit to toss in a quote, "Do not have the temerity to dogmatize on issues where the Lord has seen fit to be silent." [So now BYU is back to viewing the boundaries of marriage as a theological toss-up?]
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself adelivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I bsaw two cPersonages, whose brightness and dglory defy all description, estanding above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My fBeloved gSon. Hear Him!18 My object in going to ainquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all awrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those bprofessors were all ccorrupt; that: “they ddraw near to me with their lips, but their ehearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the fcommandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the gpower thereof.”20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself alying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, bmother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
Yeah...
I do that a lot.
Huh?
I read it and didn't get it.
Could you SHOW it to me; please?
I sure don't want to take away wrong impressions...
Can you point to this stuff in your Scriptures?
Somehow I've missed the point.
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