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The Legacy of the Bush Administration?
The American ^ | October 24, 2007 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/29/2007 12:48:01 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: tgusa
I am sorry Conservatives are expected to think not just act like petulant children and throw a tempertatrum because their political glass is only 70% full.

With the GOP you get 70% of what you want and a seat at the table when the other 30% is discussed. With any Democrat, you get 100% of what you loath imposed on you. That is factual reality. All this gabbing about “Conservative Democrats” is just mental self abuse to gratify the pseudo intellectual's mistaken notion that by being against everything the poser is some how demonstrating “intellectual sophisticated”

Adult minds understand the fact that not everything can be ordered exactly the way they want it the second they decide they want it.

61 posted on 10/29/2007 6:45:16 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: neverdem
Hispandering, Harriet Meyers, Alberto Gonzalez, and refusal to overturn ANY of Clinton's EO's... For every "conservative" thing he's done, there is some globalist/RINO action he has tried to jam down our throats.

Better than a Carter or a Clinton, but nowhere close to a Reagan....

62 posted on 10/29/2007 6:47:32 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MNJohnnie

70% would be a 100% improvement over what we are getting...


63 posted on 10/29/2007 6:48:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MNJohnnie

“With any Democrat, you get 100% of what you loath imposed on you. That is factual reality.”

Then you must just LOVE being in Minnesota.


64 posted on 10/29/2007 6:55:51 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Antonio C
Too many mistakes in policy and philosophy.

If it weren't for 9/11, he would have been toast for a second term.

The LSM won't give him credit for the tax cuts that helped the economy, and other than an initial firm response to terrorism, (my mind is slipping on the dates of his SCOTUS appointments), what did he really do to help the country?

He certainly won't protect the populace from criminal and diseased aliens, he signed the bill infringing on our First Amendment Rights, kowtows to Mexico every chance he gets, won't prosecute lawbreaking Dems to any extent, won't protect our sovereignty from the UN, won't stand up for his own appointees that besides the incompetent ones, did nothing more than have perfectly legal policy differences with Dems, ....

He'll be remembered as a tad better than mediocre.

65 posted on 10/29/2007 6:57:44 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: MNJohnnie

The U.S. Department of the Treasury announced a $163 billion deficit for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2007. But the U.S. nation debt has grown by more than $500 billion over roughly that same period of time, which tells me the deficit figures posted by the U.S. Treasury are a pile of nonsense.


66 posted on 10/29/2007 7:00:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Bush The Big Spender? Check Again”

Bush being within spitting distance from Clinton, is NOT an argument in favor of his policies. Spending, and immigration will be his two biggest mistakes looking back. Iraq could go either way. Supreme court appointments are by far his greatest accomplishment. I don’t dislike him as much as some, but he has not been a great president. He isn’t even in the same ballpark as Reagan.


67 posted on 10/29/2007 7:07:56 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: neverdem
Bush has made some very tough, courageous decisions and deserves great credit for them. Unfortunately for all of us, his support of all Globalist issues treads close to Treason, and the country may have been irreparably damaged. If the country survives, Bush’s legacy will be forever clouded. If the NAU prevails, Bush may become the “George Washington” of the North American Union.
68 posted on 10/29/2007 7:18:30 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: neverdem
The Legacy of the Bush Administration?

Big government "conservatism."
69 posted on 10/29/2007 7:29:42 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: MNJohnnie
Bush The Big Spender? Check Again

Bush destroyed our credibility as the party of fiscal conservatives. Now his SCHIP is getting our guys plastered. What was that part about how we needed to beat the Dims to the punch? Yeah, right.

We were well on our way to balancing the budget and paying down the debt. And despite all that has been spent on Iraq/Afghanistan, the real growth has come in discretionary funding.

Pill Bill is just unforgivable. There was no excuse for that, no matter how big a Bush toadie you want to be.

We haven't even begun to count the vast expansion of unfunded mandates that were handed off to the states.

The only thing stupider then comparing Bush to LBJ would be to think Ron Paul has a chance of ever being anything but a lunatic fringe congress twit from Texas.

And Ron Paul didn't vote for any of that huge expansion. Your argument is so weak that you have to drag someone completely irrelevant to Bush's spending record as a distraction. It's not that Bush failed to veto or to set the agenda when we had the majority. It's that he twisted arms and made threats against those who tried to cleave to our traditional fiscal conservative agenda.
70 posted on 10/29/2007 7:39:02 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Apres moi, le deluge.)
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To: Dead Corpse
refusal to overturn ANY of Clinton's EO's

One other:

== BJClinton entrenched his people into many government positions.

== When Bush2 came in, he failed to remove them and entrench his people.

== Thus, Bush2 has had to contend with the Clintons still trying to run things by proxy.

== Additionally, should Hillary win, she will entrench even more Clinton people, and it could takes decades to ever end the Clinton influence.
71 posted on 10/29/2007 7:40:51 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ga medic

That right just ignore all factual data coming out of Iraq. Ignore the fact that this is the last year of the Coalition Authority, at the request of the Iraqis! Ignore the fact that violence and casualties are down by more then 80%. Just ignore all facts from the ground in Iraq to cling to the Dincon “Realists” dogmas.

So much easier for the Dincons to simply keep screaming the same old lies then any of them ever having to admit they all have been totally wrong about Iraq from the start.


72 posted on 10/29/2007 7:46:24 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: George W. Bush
Instead of putting your hands over your eyes and childishly screaming “no no no no” so you can cling to your dogmatic ignorance and emotion based feeling, how about you try actually reading the data and learning some facts for once?

Try actually looking at some sources that don’t pander to your preconceived feelings one time.

73 posted on 10/29/2007 7:49:55 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: durasell
William Henry Harrison — THE WORST PRESIDENT. Accomplished absolutely nothing!

Actually I wish more Presidents would accomplish nothing, keeps the amount of government spending down.

74 posted on 10/29/2007 7:51:36 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Alberta's Child

Cannot decide to be amused or appalled by your arrogant refusal to learn even a single fact about GW Bush’s Presidency. At some point even you are going to have to admit you have been rabidly wrong about Iraq from the start.


75 posted on 10/29/2007 7:52:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Pacifism is not moral. True morality requires evil be opposed, not appeased)
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To: dfwgator

The William Harrison is your guy!


76 posted on 10/29/2007 7:56:38 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: DooDahhhh; Alberta's Child
"I admire your optimism, but unfortunately, there’s a good chance that George W. Bush will be remembered as the second coming of Lyndon Johnson."

In 2003 (tax cut year) the federal revenue was $1.7 trillion and in 2007 (fiscal year) the federal revenue is $2.5 trillion. That's impressive...

77 posted on 10/29/2007 8:00:16 AM PDT by avacado (Republicans Destroyed Democrats' Most Cherished Institution: SLAVERY!)
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To: Antonio C
I think Bush will one day be considered one of the greatest if not the greatest American president.

That's not even funny.

78 posted on 10/29/2007 8:05:06 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: MNJohnnie

The post you cite only measures discretionary spending. Thus, it ignores total spending and fails to include programs such as his Medicare drug benefit. Try again.


79 posted on 10/29/2007 8:07:59 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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To: MNJohnnie

I am not talking about my thoughts. As important as I think they are, they are not sufficient to create a legacy. I am talking a majority of Americans, and although Iraq may eventually be considered a success story, it isn’t there yet, and may never get there. To you, Bush is a great president. You are a loyal Bush fan. Your opinion, like mine, cannot create a legacy on its own.
A change in public opinion is going to require more than you continuing to tell of great success over and over again. A majority of the public isn’t listening.


80 posted on 10/29/2007 8:10:20 AM PDT by ga medic
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