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1 posted on 10/27/2007 10:16:56 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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It’s so amusing reading the stories about how the feds and Spitzer reached a “deal” allowing illegals to have licenses. Chertoff can try and help Spitzer out of the hole he dug for himself but the bottom line is the NY Legislature can still block the scheme and most likely will when it comes funding time.


47 posted on 10/27/2007 12:41:06 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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No state in the US should give driver’s licenses to people that are here illegally. By coming over without permission is proof enough they are criminal.


48 posted on 10/27/2007 12:41:09 PM PDT by freekitty ((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
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The Associated Press is, as usual, incompetent and dishonest. The federal Drivers License ID Law, passed several years ago, already provides that the "official" state licenses must meet the requirements of being given only to citizens, or aliens legally admitted to the US and ending when that right to come in, expires.

This EXISTING law recognizes that states might have a separate, and visually different, license that they issue for local purposes only. But this second license would be no good for the purpose of getting on a plane, train, or boat, nor for applying for a passport.

No "deal" had to be struck. It looks like New York just recognized that it had to abide by the provisions of this law. If it didn't, NY would lose hundreds of millions in federal highway aid. That threat straightened up NY. But recognizing that would have gut-shot this breathless, but dishonest, AP story.

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51 posted on 10/27/2007 12:48:50 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com)
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This makes me want to get one of those. You have to produce so much documentation to get a NJ license....that NY one must be a breeze. I’ll show up, “mi nombre es Jorge Arbusto, mi necesite una licencia”


61 posted on 10/27/2007 3:29:46 PM PDT by Malsua
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Bush is an asshole.


64 posted on 10/27/2007 4:34:01 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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ping


75 posted on 10/28/2007 8:30:11 AM PDT by gubamyster
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in life - is a person who compromises,
and when the leader compromises,
the whole organization compromises.
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and compromise with evil is one of them.
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76 posted on 10/28/2007 8:34:02 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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"...allowing illegal immigrants to get a version..."

I'm speechless. What are they thinking....a tracking card for illegals? :-p

77 posted on 10/28/2007 8:34:54 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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"I don't endorse giving licenses to people who are not here legally,
but federal law does allow states to make that choice," Chertoff said.

"You say illegal aliens are attempting to murder ICE agents, are setting fire to
forests and fields along the border to distract US Border Patrol Agents to make
their crossing easier, and throwing Molotov cocktails at US agents’ vehicles, and
setting fire to their observation posts? "

"I'm the Homeland Security Chief. What do you want me to do about it? "

85 posted on 10/28/2007 10:12:02 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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wot crap


87 posted on 10/28/2007 11:38:39 AM PDT by dennisw (Four and a half acres of sovereign U.S. territory,anytime,anywhere ---- US aircraft carrier)
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>>>Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said he was not happy that New York intended to issue IDs to illegal immigrants. But he said there was nothing he could do to stop it.

Spitzer’s side sounded a lot different than Chertoff’s side:

Gov. Eliot Spitzer said Sunday that his new plan to make it easier for illegal immigrants to get driver’s licenses while creating one of the most secure licenses in the nation is the result of conversations with an old friend, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff.

(snip)

``I think the statement from the secretary of Homeland Security that we now have among the most secure license in the nation is important,’’ Spitzer said. ``The first objective is security ... It is perhaps stronger now that we have the acknowledgment of the director of Homeland Security.’’

Spitzer said he has known Chertoff for more than 10 years, going back to Spitzer’s life as a prosecutor and before, when Chertoff’s wife went to Harvard Law School with Spitzer. Spitzer said long, collegial conversations with Chertoff over several weeks led to the change in policy.

(snip)

And who the heck would trust anything Chertoff said anyway?

http://www.opednews.com/duncan_011205_NJ_Terrorism_Michael_Chertoff.htm
New Jersey and Terrorism…Perfect Together


93 posted on 10/28/2007 8:41:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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