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'This Is Not a Bluff'- A Christian political leader on the threat of a third party.
Newsweek.com ^ | October 23, 2007

Posted on 10/23/2007 11:47:00 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Christian conservatives want more respect. They were instrumental in propelling George W. Bush to power—twice—and now they're feeling neglected. At a "Values Voters" summit in Washington last week, leading evangelicals gathered to speak out and take a straw poll. The survey showed how unhappy they are with the twice-divorced, pro-choice Republican front runner for the presidential nomination, Rudy Giuliani. He got less than two percent of the overall vote. (Some Christian activists have threatened to back a third-party candidate if Giuliani wins the GOP nomination.)

Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney won the straw poll of 5,775 conservatives, which included voters who have been able to cast online ballots since August. But many evangelicals are uncomfortable with Romney's Mormon faith. That may have factored in the voting of people who actually attended the summit: Romney lost that tally by a wide margin to former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, who is also an ordained Southern Baptist minister. To better understand the current thinking of Christian conservatives, NEWSWEEK's Jeffrey Bartholet and Eve Conant spoke to Richard Land, a leading evangelical who serves as president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. Excerpts:

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: christianvote; divideandconquer; elections; enemedia; land; thirdparty; valuesvoters
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I guess this is Newsweek's way of cheerleading for a conservative third party movement.
1 posted on 10/23/2007 11:47:01 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Two words: RUNOFF ELECTIONS.....


2 posted on 10/23/2007 11:51:16 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I thought Thompson was going to solve this so-called problem for the GOP.


3 posted on 10/23/2007 11:52:08 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Great! The Guaranteed Democratic Win Party!


4 posted on 10/23/2007 11:52:31 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
If these people are so concerned about morals and a pro life candidate, why is Sam Brownback having to drop out???

Sam Brownback had many faults, but he was pro-life as pro life can be (Don’t give me any crap about Immigration).

Also the grand ayatollah himself wanted that great moral leader Newt to run for President. How does that square with his opposition to Rudy? Let me repeat, I am not a Rudy supporter in the primaries, but if these groups want to vote themselves out of existence, like Ross Perot, go ahead.

If we get 4 years of Hillary, they will be eliminated as an opposition group.

5 posted on 10/23/2007 11:54:15 AM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me - Go tarheels!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I am a Christian conservative, but they should not do this. If they do, they will cause damage equal to that of Ross Perot. Different issue, same result.

Clinton + Pelosi + Reid = ?


6 posted on 10/23/2007 11:54:54 AM PDT by tennteacher (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Reminds me of the old joke.

Man comes home and find the wife in bed with his best friend.

He pulls out his gun and sticks it under his chin.

The wife starts laughing.

He says, don’t laugh, your next.

7 posted on 10/23/2007 11:56:04 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: pabianice

Talk is cheap. On election day, when the reality of a likely Hillary presidency becomes clear, evangelicals are not going to vote 3rd party.


8 posted on 10/23/2007 11:58:24 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: tennteacher

exactly... Another Ross Perot is the answer for the libs.


9 posted on 10/23/2007 11:58:32 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: tennteacher

There is no one conservative leader, IMO these guys are trying to remain relevant, I think if comes down to pro abortion anti famliy Hillary vs a Romney or a Thompson, it won’t matter what Dobson has to say, and that party will go nowhere.

The next President will have at least two (2) Supreme Court Nominations, no way anyone who cares about life puts Hillary in charge of selecting who they will be.


10 posted on 10/23/2007 11:59:24 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ No more miller brewing products, pass it on....)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

From the article:

It would be like asking an African-American to choose between Strom Thurmond and George Wallace or asking Abe Lincoln to vote for a pro-slavery candidate. I personally can’t do it. I am not going to criticize those who choose the lesser-of-two-evils option.
***Sounds right.


11 posted on 10/23/2007 12:00:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.))
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“Oh great wise leader, I say this vote is mine, but neighbor says it is hers. What should we do.”

“Let’s cut it in two, then each of you can have half.”


12 posted on 10/23/2007 12:00:39 PM PDT by feedback doctor (green is the new red. . .)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Newsweak... real insight into the Republican right. /s


13 posted on 10/23/2007 12:02:28 PM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Newsweak is trying to cause division.


14 posted on 10/23/2007 12:03:18 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: Perdogg

If we get 4 years of Hillary, they will be eliminated as an opposition group.: SO SICK OF THAT KIND OF RHETORIC: IF THE REPUBLICANS LOOSE- IT’ll BE THEIR FAULT: For electing a LIBERAL/Rino as their candidate (Sheesh..you and others act as if these VOTERS: OWE their Alegience to the All Powerful Political Party, rather than the other way around- in which our elected leaders must “earn” our most fought after right to vote!


15 posted on 10/23/2007 12:04:32 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Bobkk47
Talk is cheap. On election day, when the reality of a likely Hillary presidency becomes clear, evangelicals are not going to vote 3rd party.

They'll act just like my five year old. Throw a tantrum, fall on the ground, and kick and scream until someone pays attention to them. They aren't bright enough to realize they have a choice between 90% of what they want and 0% of what they want. They'll shoot themselves in the foot and get 0% because they want attention.
16 posted on 10/23/2007 12:05:31 PM PDT by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
They were instrumental in propelling George W. Bush to power—twice—and now they're feeling neglected. At a "Values Voters" summit

I really hate what the Values Voters have been doing to conservatism and to the Republican Party.

I do wish they'd act on their threat and leave. Permanently.

"Propelling GWB to power" is not exactly a big plus, IMO, and I for one am sick to death of the irrelevant criteria they use to select their Bishop Of The United States.

They are a disaster for conservatism and for the Party (for which I have been active since 1968 as a Republican youth and from a churchgoing Republican family).

Abraham Lincoln started the Republican Party, not Dr. Dobson. Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan have most recently articulated the deareat values of conservatism, not Dr. Dobson.

Who are these people?

17 posted on 10/23/2007 12:06:04 PM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh yea. Everytime I look for answers to great moral questions I turn to ...
... Newsweek? LOL!


18 posted on 10/23/2007 12:07:50 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: JSDude1

Look at the facts.

Right now mediamatters and CREW are being used to go after the GOP and conservatives. Just wait until they get a hold of the DoJ, IRS, FEC, and FCC. They used IRS in the first Clinton administration, there may not be a GOP congress to watchover.

These people are stalinist. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.


19 posted on 10/23/2007 12:09:08 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me - Go tarheels!)
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To: GreenOgre; Bobkk47
On election day, when the reality of a likely Hillary presidency becomes clear, evangelicals are not going to vote 3rd party.

There is a certain contingent of them here on FR who crow about and revel in the "lesson" they taught the Republican Party in 2006.

Perhaps they did. All the more reason for them to leave.

20 posted on 10/23/2007 12:09:15 PM PDT by angkor ("Hyeah right. The man who singlehandedly killed ManBearPig is a loser." Al Gore, South Park 10.06)
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