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Live Updating Thread: 2007 Southern California Firestorms
LA Times ^ | 9:35 AM PDT, October 21, 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 10/21/2007 9:48:36 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

UPDATE: The city of Malibu is advising residents in Puerco Canyon to begin evacuating due to a wildfire driven by powerful winds. This area is north of Pacific Coast Highway and about 1 mile west of Pepperdine University. Residents along the beach on Malibu Road may soon be evacuated. Pacific Coast Highway is closed between Kanan-Dume Road and Topanga Canyon. Residents are advised to head to the west. Evacuation centers are being set up in the Zuma Beach area.

A wildfire driven by powerful winds in the Malibu Hills this morning threatened a university, destroyed at least one home and forced the evacuation of hundreds more, authorities said.

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To: BurbankKarl

That’s under a mile from my house. And many are as bad. It’s so surreal :-(


3,081 posted on 10/23/2007 11:45:24 PM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: BurbankKarl

Hunter was just on Kogo saying that a General (didn’t catch the name) had finally gotten a waiver from CalFire(?) so that the helicopters WILL be flying by daybreak tomorrow.


3,082 posted on 10/23/2007 11:46:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

OK, it’s a bet, if the power station goes down, I’ll buy you a Bud, if it stays up, I’ll take the Polly girl.


3,083 posted on 10/23/2007 11:46:38 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: calcowgirl

its is just more BS....

That huge Canadian plane doesnt have a waiver either....I dont know who is footing the bill for that hing.


3,084 posted on 10/23/2007 11:49:10 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: mfccinsd

I remember back in ?1970-71? when much of San Diego County burned down. It was like Armageddon. The whole horizon in a semicircle to the east of us was on fire.


3,085 posted on 10/23/2007 11:49:14 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: dragnet2

they are showing pendleton on My 13 news in LA


3,086 posted on 10/23/2007 11:49:55 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: dragnet2

A Bud?

Goodnite......


3,087 posted on 10/23/2007 11:50:03 PM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy (Don't hit them between the eyes. Hit them right -in- the eyes!)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy


3,088 posted on 10/23/2007 11:51:07 PM PDT by spectr17 (What if the Hokey Pokey really is what it's all about?)
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To: calcowgirl
B-safe, b9.

Thanks. We're far west of the fire and weren't in danger.
Snowing ashes and heavy air is all.

3,089 posted on 10/23/2007 11:52:08 PM PDT by b9 (~ simply Fred ~)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy

Well, it’s not like your going to win the bet...


3,090 posted on 10/23/2007 11:52:09 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: BurbankKarl
either rain or be 100 degrees on Saturday.

LOL! Weathermen! Accurate as always, and so helpful. "There will be weather, or there may be weather. News at 11."

3,091 posted on 10/23/2007 11:52:56 PM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor and two Marines! Go Rockies!)
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To: BurbankKarl
the Navy ordered families to pack, Marines to their barracks and Navy to their vessels.

What does that mean? Are they evacuating the base?

3,092 posted on 10/23/2007 11:53:29 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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doopler radar showing the smoke plume from the new CP fire changing directions..instead of blowing WNW into the ocean its blowing NNW up 5


3,093 posted on 10/23/2007 11:54:01 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: patriciaruth
Check out the comprehensive map for the burned structures. Your friend was about a mile west of the closest structures lost. I mapped Frame Rd to the southernmost Poway casualty in this map
3,094 posted on 10/23/2007 11:54:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy
Hey, I win, I'll take the Polly girl, you win, you'll get an Old Milwaukee.

:0

3,095 posted on 10/23/2007 11:54:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

They said be prepared to evacuate.


3,096 posted on 10/23/2007 11:55:29 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: dragnet2
Those line are probably 300 feet above the freeway. They won’t even be warmed up....

Those will warmed. You would not believe the infrared heat these brush flames generate until you feel it. Has to do with the rate of ignition. (ie - they burn fast). The main lines by the plant or freeway are not the main problem. These change as you go inland. Over the hills to the west they are more normal power line towers. Miles and miles of them. I do not know what the defense plan for a major fire was here. Maybe they assumed they would have assets to keep flames from the weaker lines further inland. The flames coincidently when I saw them on fox were parallel to the power lines. All kinds of weird physical forces will be in play when multiple towers along with the lines between the towers are heated by intense infrared radiation.

3,097 posted on 10/23/2007 11:55:56 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: calcowgirl

Unfortunately still a very incomplete list...even for just destroyed in RB. I know people with confirmation their homes and many on their street is gone and the streets aren’t on the list period.

It’s ugly. I’ll post something tomorrow to show you guys something wild.


3,098 posted on 10/23/2007 11:57:45 PM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: justa-hairyape
OK you win...It's going to shut down the nuclear power plant. We'll all be in the dark, martial law, mass riots and chaos to follow.
3,099 posted on 10/24/2007 12:01:18 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: BurbankKarl

So what’s the real scoop? I see a whole lot of Hollywood photo-ops—it doesn’t seem right that they can’t get available air resources up and working.


3,100 posted on 10/24/2007 12:01:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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