Posted on 10/20/2007 2:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
"I speak for at least half the people here, including the Founder Jim Robinson, who has stated he will not vote for Giuliani under any circumstance."
Agree.
Don't Cut and Run, vote pro-life every time. It's the way you always win.
‘We cannot diminish the value of one category of human life — the unborn — without diminishing the value of all human life.’ —Ronald Reagan
Rudy Giuliani is the new Bob Dole.
They will have more people staying home because Giuliani has a NEGATIVE effect. People are not DRAWN to the polls to vote for him. Vote against hillary? Hardly, Giuliani IS Hillary.
Giuliani must be stopped at the primary.
No Giuliani, no problem.
I disagree. There are many things more important than life.
Self-sacrifice. Loyalty. Freedom. Faith. Martyrdom.
These do not diminish the value of life, in fact, they heighten the value of life. We honor equally those who lived meaningful lives, as well as those who were inclined to surrender their lives for a meaningful end.
Life is a sacred opportunity. An individual’s life and death are all they ever really own, all that really define them, everything they are and everything that they were.
Our lives are our most precious things. And yet, as this gift is given to us all, we know that all of us in time will have to surrender it again. All of what is best in us and all that is the worst in us will be forfeit.
Is it not exalted to place what we prize over our very life itself? To say that life itself is not the most important thing in our lives, even though as mortals, it often is.
Self-sacrifice. Loyalty. Freedom. Faith. Martyrdom.
That is why to take the chance for these exalted acts from others, by depriving them of their lives, is so abhorrent to us. All deserve an opportunity to find what is more valuable to their lives than life itself.
“What if it’s Rudy v. Hillary in ‘08? Vote Rudy, or stay home and let Hillary have it?
(Just askin’ ...)”
How we make sure it’s NOT Rudy vs Hillary! (just sayin......)
I for one, will not be bullied into voting for a “pro-choice” nominee.
God bless you.
“There are two groups that want a Rudy candidatecy.
1. Main stream media.
2. The Republican National Committee”
The RNC is the most worrisome!
Amen!
The old labor organizing song comes to mind
"Which side are you on?"
I'm with you on this one , Jim. Thank you for clarity.
~~~ President Ronald Reagan, 1983, From: Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation
Absolutely!
How many days old is that baby in the picture at post #1?
Liberals believe in a diminished standard of human life.
Voting for a pro-life president to select pro-life SC justices is the least effective way to promote the pro-life cause. In fact, it may be counter productive in that it takes energy from more effective strategies, such as passing pro-life legislation and ultimately a constitutional ammendment. Voting for a pro-life president to sign into law pro-life legislation is effective, but only after pro-life legislation is available to be signed.
Voting for a pro-life president does however give the pro-life voter a feeling that they are doing something for the cause, but that’s all it yields, a feeling.
That the abortion holocaust occurs, and is being done at the behest of the parents of those killed, speaks volumes about how far our civilization has descended into barbarity. A significant change in the souls of Americans must occur before abortion will be seen as the crime it is by enough people to make it illegal. That is the difficult task we have before us. May God help us!
First, I am so sorry for the loss of your child and your wife. As someone who has lost several babies to recurrent miscarriages, I hurt for you. :*(
BUT—do you honestly believe the 40+million abortions that have occured since Roe v. Wade became law were “necessary”, the way your child’s loss was? :*(
No. The majority (and some articles I’ve read have said well into the 90 percentile) of abortions are NOT because of situations such as yours, or incest, or rape—what is happening is wholesale genocide of an entire generation of children because of the whims/’choices’ of the woman who became pregnant, probably due to irresponsibility. So many abortions are simply on demand, and not due to true catastrophic reasons like you posted you went through. :*(
The genocide against the unborn must end. It is an abomination in God’s eyes, and it should be an abomination in all of *our* eyes. :*(
Again, condolences on your losses, and prayers for your healing.
“Well they won’t unless he becomes the nominee. Then—Katy, bar the door!—”
This is true. Then the MSM will scare off whatever conservative republicans they can. Eithere way, the MSM wins
with Rudy!
Sorry for what you went through. Many pro-lifers do not have a problem with it in the case of the life of the mother. And yes, in those cases, it should be between the family and the doctors.
However, abortion for other reasons is not acceptable. There are women who kill their unborn children because they’re afraid it would make them look fat. It’s that kind of thinking that the pro-life side is so opposed to. I fully support banning abortion except in cases like what you went through with your first wife.
But Rudy is not a Republican though. He has publicly stated that his policies were the same as Clinton's. He admires RINO legends such as John Lindsay and Nelson Rockefeller.
Republicans would be galvanized against Clinton and would be stronger and more conservative in the long-run. With Rudy, the mph increases a little bit more to the end goal of socialism.
Rudy doesn't deserve your support. He is an authoritarian big-city Mayor who somehow feels entitled to be President based upon being in the middle of the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Before 9/11 he was nothing more than a Republican Richard Daley.
I’m not advocating a third party run. They are nearly impossible to execute. I just think it’s time the Repbulican party see their donations and electibility be severly impacted, unless they are going to remember who they represent, and adhere to the values that are important to them.
Do I like the prospect? Absolutely not. Do we have any other choice? Evidently not.
Look at the looser I have for governor (Schwarzenegger) and tell me voting for party is important. This guy isn’t even a moderate democrat on all too many issues.
I’ve had it with the lesser of two evils. Give me a good guy straight up or watch me walk.
“Rudy doesn’t deserve your support. He is an authoritarian big-city Mayor who somehow feels entitled to be President based upon being in the middle of the biggest terrorist attack on U.S. soil. Before 9/11 he was nothing more than a Republican Richard Daley.”
B U M P
Take a look at the text just underneath the picture of the unborn child.
Use eye, grasshopper.
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