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Rescuers search for missing students at Airman's Cave (Austin. Texas)
Austin American Statesman ^ | 10.14.07 | Corrie MacLaggan

Posted on 10/14/2007 1:42:51 PM PDT by trumandogz

Rescue workers have been searching since early this morning for four people believed to be inside Airman's Cave, a narrow limestone cavity that runs parallel to South Lamar Boulevard.

The people - three women and a man believed to be University of Texas students - set out to explore the cave at around 9 a.m. Saturday, officials said. The cavers told friends to call for help if they weren't back by midnight Saturday. At around 5 a.m., the friends called 911.

Rescue workers with EMS and the Austin Fire Department are searching with the help of local caving groups.

"We have no reason to believe that they're injured," said Frank Urias, an EMS division commander, said of the missing people. "At this point, we're just treating them as overdue cavers."

Officials did not release the names of the missing people.

The trek from the cave's entrance behind the Barton's Lodge apartments on South Lamar Boulevard to the end - 1.5 miles south, past Ben White Boulevard - would take an experienced caver about 12 hours, said Warren Hassinger, an EMS spokesman.

He said some of the missing cavers may have had little to no experience.

"It's definitely not someplace where an amateur or novice wants to be," Urias said of Airman's Cave. "It has very, very narrow passages. It has several areas where its very easy to get lost or disoriented in."

The most challenging part of the cave to navigate is a 16- or 18-inch wide section near the beginning called the keyhole, said firefighter D. J. Walker, who was inside the cave this morning.

He said he had to put one arm above his head and the other arm by his side to wiggle his way inside. Walker, who weighs 155 pounds, said he was chosen to go in because of his size. "If you're over 170 pounds, it's hard to get in," he said.

Rescue workers found water bottles and a cell phone near the entrance to the cave, which seems to indicate that the people are still inside, Walker said.

The fire and EMS workers are using Vietnam War-era phones to communicate with the dozen or so rescuers who are inside the cave, Walker said. The rescuers have brought a spool of telephone wire into the cave because radios and cell phones don?t work inside. The wire - along with glow sticks they're placing along their path - will also help the rescue workers find their way out, officials said.

The entrance to the cave is a 10-minute hike down a rocky trail in the greenbelt behind the apartment complex. This morning, several rescue workers congregated outside the cave's entrance, which is under a rocky overhang. Some had light brown dust all over their bodies from their time inside the cave.

"It's not a fun cave," said Kevin Harner of EMS, who tried to enter the cave this morning but said that although he could have physically fit through the keyhole, it was too much for him psychologically.

"You really have to like caving," he said.


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1 posted on 10/14/2007 1:43:01 PM PDT by trumandogz
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The cavers told friends to call for help if they weren't back by midnight Saturday. At around 5 a.m., the friends called 911.

This costs how much? This puts rescuers ar what risk?

2 posted on 10/14/2007 1:56:59 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: trumandogz
He said some of the missing cavers may have had little to no experience.

"It's definitely not someplace where an amateur or novice wants to be," Urias said of Airman's Cave.

It sounds like we have some Darwin Award candidates here.

3 posted on 10/14/2007 1:59:36 PM PDT by vox humana
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
I imagine it cost some money but the risk in these caves in minimal for rescuers that have caving experience.
4 posted on 10/14/2007 1:59:55 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: vox humana
Therefore, someone in the group has spelunking experience.
5 posted on 10/14/2007 2:05:25 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: trumandogz

http://www.io.com/~iareth/airmens.html


6 posted on 10/14/2007 2:32:58 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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bttt


7 posted on 10/14/2007 2:37:57 PM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Wow. Thanks for the link. The cave runs through S. Austin, right under where I used to live.


8 posted on 10/14/2007 2:44:10 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: vox humana
Was thinking the same. And wondering if it is their 'youth' that absolves th em from the rules of practical thinking; or their Liberal education. . .

WhatEVER. . .do hope they are found quickly and that everyone participating here remains safe.

9 posted on 10/14/2007 2:54:56 PM PDT by cricket
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At first I wondered if they are really in there, or if it is a hoax. If they are, hope they are found safe.


10 posted on 10/14/2007 2:57:16 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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Great link!

I was stationed at Bergstrom AFB (12th Tac Recon Squadron, PPIF), when this got a little local publicity. I seem to recall one or two articles in the Austin Statesman, and a little on-base buzz. Had completely forgotten about the cave until today.

11 posted on 10/14/2007 2:59:22 PM PDT by Don Carlos (No 8 Do.)
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Breaking News: Rescuers have successfully located the missing cavers and they are reported to be in good condition.

KVUE-Austin, TX TV station


12 posted on 10/14/2007 3:01:00 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last..)
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To: TornadoAlley3

No, thanks! I’ll stick to places where I can stand up!

http://public.fotki.com/slax/airmans_cave/airman_003.html


13 posted on 10/14/2007 3:04:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: TornadoAlley3

That’s good to hear.


14 posted on 10/14/2007 3:12:21 PM PDT by trumandogz (Hunter Thompson 2008)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
This costs how much? This puts rescuers art what risk?

I agree that these people put themselves in a dangerous situation but at what point are you willing to draw the line?

Let’s say you are driving a bit too fast on a rain slicked back road on dark night– not drunk or purposely reckless but you misjudge the conditions and make a mistake and your car goes off the road and down a steep ravine.

The 9-11 call goes out and a rescue team has to go down that ravine to extract you from the wreckage. They are putting their lives at risk for your mistake. A medi-vac helicopter is dispatched to take you to the nearest trauma center. Every time a medi-vac helicopter takes off and lands and takes back off again, they are putting their lives at risk not to mention the expense. Then you go the trauma center where highly trained doctors and nurses and the best and very expensive medical technology saves your life.

The Coast Guard risks their lives to save boaters who make bad judgments on weather conditions and on their own skill as boaters all the time.

Do you really want rescuers to make judgments on whether you deserve to be saved or do you want them to save lives and ask questions later?
15 posted on 10/14/2007 3:23:01 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Rely on the spirit and meaning of the teachings, not on the words or superficial interpretations)
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To: kcvl

Agreed.

This just doesn’t look like much fun...http://images102.fotki.com/v401/photos/4/43435/517195/airman028-vi.jpg?1070158878

Not to me.


16 posted on 10/14/2007 3:24:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Thanks for the photo, BenLurkin. Yikes! I’ve been in a couple caves, one where some of the going was on hands and knees, but from the looks of things, this cave is insane!


17 posted on 10/14/2007 3:35:35 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: BenLurkin
Wow. What possesses people to do this? I would be way too frightened. I don’t know whether to admire them or be freaked out by the foolishness. How in the world can they rescue someone through such a small space. Seems like if you were injured and had a swollen leg or arm you could not get out. I'm upset thinking about it.
18 posted on 10/14/2007 3:42:50 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

I’m wondering why the friends waited 5 hours longer instead of calling 911 at midnight as instructed? Seems to me 5 hours earlier might have been crucial regarding a rescue.


19 posted on 10/14/2007 3:45:13 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush has done more for this country than any of us will ever know and is STILL wowing us!!!)
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FoxNews reporting:

Three University of Texas students who had not emerged from a cave after nearly 30 hours were found alive and uninjured Sunday, an emergency worker said.

"The victims are uninjured, our crews are safe, it doesn't get any better than this," said Frank Urias, division commander of Austin-Travis County EMS.

The two women and one man were found in a 500-foot crawlspace that is about the diameter of a sewer pipe, Urias said. They are expected to be pulled from the cave in a few hours.

20 posted on 10/14/2007 3:48:23 PM PDT by rawhide
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