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On Coulter, Christians, And Jews
American Thinker ^ | October 13, 2007 | Steven M. Warshawsky

Posted on 10/13/2007 7:36:02 PM PDT by neverdem

On Donny Deutch's television talk show earlier this week, Ann Coulter honestly answered "yes" when asked by Deutch if she believes that this country "would be better if we were all Christian."  She further stated that Christians "just want Jews to be perfected," i.e., to accept Jesus Christ as their lord and savior.  (The full transcript is here .)

Let the outrage begin!

Deutch, a liberal Jew, accused Coulter of making "hateful" and "anti-Semitic" remarks.

Michael Savage, host of one of the most popular conservative talk radio shows, and also a Jew, likewise accused Coulter of anti-Semitism, and called her a "deranged hag" for good measure.

I must say that Savage's comments surprised me, because he has been one of the strongest voices in recent years against the cult of "political correctness."  And what is Coulter's crime in this case?  Not that she is an anti-Semite.  This is absurd.  I seriously doubt that either Savage or Deutch truly believes that Coulter "hates" Jews.  Rather, Coulter's crime is that she violated one of PC's most sacred taboos:  Expressing belief in the correctness of one's religion.  The only thing worse than this in PC land is asserting the superiority of one's race. 

Well, at least when it comes to white Christians.  For the rules of PC do not apply equally to all.  They do not apply to Jews or blacks or women (except to the extent these groups express "conservative" points of view).  The strictures and penalties of PC only apply to the majority of the American people, as well as to the Founding Fathers who established this great country, and to the many generations of overwhelmingly white Christian Americans who built this nation into the freest, richest, and most powerful country on earth, and defended our country through several bloody wars against its enemies, foreign and domestic. 

The ideology of PC is anti-American to its core.  Its fundamental purpose is not to ensure that "minority" Americans share more fully in the American Dream.  Its goal is to tear apart this nation -- its people, its culture, its history -- root and branch, and replace it with a miasma of atheism, socialism, and multiculturalism.  To see Michael Savage acting the part of PC police is stunning.     

Moreover, for Jews of any political persuasion to take offense at Coulter's comments strikes me as deeply ignorant and immature.  Do Jews truly expect Christians to pretend that they do not believe in the teachings of their religion?  Why?  Because so many Jews have discarded the teachings of their own religion?  (I myself am a secular Jew.)  The "logic" at work here seems to be that, because so many Jews can imagine, along with John Lennon, a world in which "there's no heaven" and "no religion too," it is offensive and outrageous for other folks to disagree with this sanitized vision of the future.  Many Christians, however, still believe in their religion, still believe it is the path to eternal salvation, and fail to appreciate what is so wonderful about the fairy tale world invoked in Lennon's song.  From a PC perspective, this makes them "insensitive" and "bigoted" and "hateful."

I say, thank god that so many Christians in this country still believe in their religion!  That is the only thing that will prevent the violent and tyrannical expansion of the Muslim world.  And that is the only thing that will preserve the existence of the Jewish people.

As a Jew, I recognize, with painful humility, that the existence of my person, my people, lies at the mercy of the larger, stronger peoples in whose midst we live.  To deny this fact is to deny reality.  Not too long ago, the people of Nazi Germany, along with their allies and collaborators, attempted to eradicate the Jewish people once and for all.  The Final Solution they called it.  They nearly succeeded.  But while the Germans and Poles and Dutch and French and the many others who participated in this obscene massacre were Christians, it was not their Christianity that impelled them to these acts.  It was the vicious political ideology of the Nazis.  This is what triggered the Holocaust.

The truth is that the Jews of Europe could not have saved themselves from Hitler's rampage.  Practically every Jew alive today owes his or her existence to the fact that Hitler was defeated by the brave and virtuous troops of the Anglo-American alliance, practically all of whom were Christians too.  Could FDR and Churchill and the rest of the western leaders have done more to help the Jews, both before and during the war?  Perhaps.  (Forget what the Soviets could have done; their moral corruption ran almost as deep as the Nazis'.)  But I refuse to play that despicable blame game.  I simply am grateful for the good people of this country, who made for my grandparents and parents, and now for me, the best home on earth that Jews have ever enjoyed.      

Today, the leaders of Iran -- the most powerful Islamic nation, with aspirations of regional, indeed world, domination -- speak openly of eliminating the state of Israel, i.e., the largest concentration of Jews outside of the United States.  Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has vowed repeatedly to "wipe Israel off the map."  Just this week, the former president of Iran, Hashemi Rafsanjani (often referred to as a "moderate"), commented during a sermon (yes, during a religious service)  that the Nazis "saved" Europe from the evils of Zionism.  In other words, the Nazis did Europe a favor by murdering six million Jews.  Where was the outrage from western leftists?  Where were the screams of protest from liberal Jews?  What will these idiots say when the nuclear bombs start falling on Israel?  Probably that Israel caused it, or could have prevented it, or even deserved it.  The mere existence of the Jewish state will be deemed sufficient justification for its total destruction.  My stomach is sick with the thought of how easily Muslim genocide of Jews will be excused, even by Jews themselves.

Make no mistake, New York City -- i.e., "Jew York City" -- will be next.  Destroy Israel and New York City, and most of the world's remaining Jews will be dead.  When this day comes, a substantial part of the Muslim world will be cheering, just as they cheered the destruction of the World Trade Towers on 9/11.

But measured by the amount of heat and vitriol her comments generated, the real enemy apparently is Ann Coulter.  How dare she assert the truth of her religion?  True or not, I know that Christianity is far preferable to Islam.  Would Donny Deutch and Michael Savage and all of the other critics who are blasting Coulter rather live in a Muslim country?  One does not have to be a scholar of the world's religions (and I am not) to know the answer to that question. 

This is the real choice facing Jews in this country, and even in Israel.  John Lennon's fantasy of universal peace and love and brotherhood does not exist, and never will exist.  The fate of the world's Jews, and Christians for that matter, ultimately depends on the ability and willingness of the Christian West, especially the United States, to prevail in the steadily intensifying struggle we are witnessing across the globe between Islam and Christianity. 

What Deutch and Savage and the other critics fail to understand is that only a Christian people who truly believes in the correctness, indeed superiority, of their religion will be able to win this fight.  A secularized people who believes in nothing but watery principles of tolerance and democracy inevitably will succumb to the combination of violent Islamic intimidation and the "nondiscriminatory" imperatives of their own multicultural worldview.  If sharia ever does come to the United States, I am quite certain that its handmaidens will be atheists and liberals, not believing Christians.

As a Jew living in this great country, I have no doubt who my enemies are, and who are my allies.  And I know to which group Ann Coulter belongs.

Steven M. Warshawsky      


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; christians; coulter; donnydeutch; jews
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To: pawdoggie

I know, but 980 is such a weak sister signal outside of the KC Metro that he can’t be heard in outlying areas. Doesn’t mean a swap couldn’t (double neg sorry) be made for the right $$$. 710 has a much broader and powerful signal strength.


121 posted on 10/14/2007 7:58:11 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE
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To: shineon
1. Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. Romans 11:24-26 (in Context) Romans 11 (Whole Chapter)

Romans 11 is not a chapter unto itself. What Paul is teaching was already foretold by the holy prophets, and the first Paul quotes in this book to the Romans and to us this day is Habakkuk 2:4 ..Now verse 2-3 of chapter 2 says And the LORD answered me, and said, "Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it. (V 3) For the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: (there is that warning of Christ's deception) though it tarry, WAIT for it: because it will surely come, it will not tarry."

Now what Paul quoted.. (V 4) Behold, his *soul* which is NOT upright in him:

but the *just* shall live by his faith.

There is more in Habakkuk and Paul by quoting it make it one and the same as what most Christians call the New.

Now back to Romans Paul says in Romans 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every *soul* of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, (Now when one checks out what the word Jew means it includes the whole house of Israel, NOT LAND) and also to the Gentile:

V 11 For there is NO respect of persons with God.

Romans 2:24 "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you," as it is written. Written where? Ezekiel 36:20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned My holy name, when they said to them, 'These are the People of the LORD, and are gone forth out of His land,'

V21 But I had pity for Mine holy name,

which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

V23 And I will sanctify My great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the Heathen shall know that I AM the LORD,' saith the LORD GOD, which I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Back to Romans...2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.....26..27..28..29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the HEART, in the *SPIRIT* and not in the letter: whose praise is NOT of MEN but of God.

Chapter 3 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?

V2 Much every: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

V3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief made the faith of God without effect?

V4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, "That Thou mightest be *justified* in Thy sayings, and mightest overcome then Thou art judged." Here Paul is quoting King David also a holy prophet who penned this in Psalms 51:4, so now the Psalms have been made part of the NEW. King David a Christian, imagine that!!!!!!!

Throughout this book of Romans, Paul makes that OLD one and the same as Christianity, and in the beginning of this chapter 11 Paul tells us that he is of the TRIBE of Benjamin, so that would made him a Benjamin, the youngest child of Jacob. Benjamin historically was part of the TRIBE of Judah and that House of Judah that was sent into captivity to that king of Babylon after the House of Israel, also called the Northern Kingdom, lived in the land called Samaria, and Christ called them the LOST SHEEP of the House of Israel.

Romans 11:7 What then? Israel (Not talking about land but PEOPLE) hath not obtained that which he seeketh for: but the *ELECTION* hath obtained it,

and the rest were blinded. These words were first penned by another holy prophet Moses way back in Deuteronomy 29:4 Yet the LORD hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto THIS DAY. So now Deuteronomy is made one and the same at that NEW!!!!!

The very next verse Romans 11:8 (According as it is written, "God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear";) *UNTO THIS DAY*

Welllllll just hmmmmmm, Israel all but that remnant (NOT LAND but people) were blinded, now what is it that they are blind TO????? Key to understanding what Paul is saying in the prior chapters then the rest of Romans.

122 posted on 10/14/2007 7:58:38 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: nathanbedford
I think you place far too much emphasis on Danny Deutsch and Ann Coulter. After all, they’re just entertainers and Coulter is hawking another book. They both have a right to free speech and both enjoy engaging in public head butting, but neither one are religious leaders. I don’t take either one seriously.

When I read Coulter’s remarks I thought they were off the wall and bigoted. Ann wants the controversy so she’ll sell more books. Whatever.

123 posted on 10/14/2007 8:12:23 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: neverdem
Video of the whole episode is here.

I would not characterize her remarks as "hateful" or "intolerant" or "anti-semitic. Politically incorrect? Yes they were that.

124 posted on 10/14/2007 8:14:58 AM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MojoWire

Comparing Ann Coulter to “BILLY GRAHAM”, is an outrage of the first order. Coulter demanding perfection is a joke.

Jesus never demanded perfection.


125 posted on 10/14/2007 8:18:52 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: dougd

Doug, I heard it myself. She said Jews needed to be perfected. Not only is it offensive by itself, but taken together with any little bit of knowledge about the events of the 20th century, and a thinking person would not have said it. I don’t happen to care if I sound like a Dem; Ann was wrong on this one.

I agree - to someone else’s point - that she is trying to sell books.


126 posted on 10/14/2007 8:51:30 AM PDT by dellbabe68
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To: RussP

Amen to that, RussP. I’ve forced myself to listen to Savage on occasion. I get the impression that Savage is a liberal masquerading as a neo-conservative. And he’s ridiculing his audience, especially his most faithful followers.


127 posted on 10/14/2007 9:00:42 AM PDT by Irish Queen (Nevada Gal)
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To: El Gato

Thanks for the link.


128 posted on 10/14/2007 9:16:41 AM PDT by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: Reagan Man
“Sounds like Ann Coulter has joined James Dobson.
“Off the wall, loonies on the loose.”

One may now be honest and open about anything at all, except about Christian doctrine and convictions. If you are a Christian, and dare say so, and say what Christians believe, then you must be, of course, a loonie on the loose.” /s
129 posted on 10/14/2007 9:25:40 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: neverdem
Very good article...could not have said it that well myself. Shame you see some of the following even here...

The ideology of PC is anti-American to its core. Its fundamental purpose is not to ensure that "minority" Americans share more fully in the American Dream. Its goal is to tear apart this nation -- its people, its culture, its history -- root and branch, and replace it with a miasma of atheism, socialism, and multiculturalism. To see Michael Savage acting the part of PC police is stunning

130 posted on 10/14/2007 9:44:58 AM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: El Cid

very nice


131 posted on 10/14/2007 9:48:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: neverdem

“deutch, a liberal jew.....?”

absolutely amazing. liberal “jews” are the ones who usually claim atheism at the same time as judaism.
maybe it’s a trap for the non-liberal; if they condemn “liberalness” then they naturally condemn “jewishness” because many atheists lay claim to both. so he becomes an “anti-semite” if he says anything that rejects political correctness. (how very convenient for censoring the opposition. the communist dialectic at work one would guess.) imho


132 posted on 10/14/2007 9:48:59 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Amos the Prophet

no kidding..


133 posted on 10/14/2007 9:55:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (Behind the lines in Vichy Nashville)
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To: familyop

I understand you see all sorts of bogey men where they don’t exist from previous converstations with you. I only pray that this filter that you apply to all things Christian stop blocking your ability to see the truth of what Jesus’s gospel says and not what you think it says. Peace.


134 posted on 10/14/2007 10:07:10 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: shineon
The old testament predicts when the Jews will come to Christianity at the time of the (2nd) coming of the Messiah:

Zechariah 12:10 (Whole Chapter) And I will pour upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of grace and of supplication; and they shall look upon Me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for Him as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for Him as one who is in bitterness for his firstborn.

135 posted on 10/14/2007 10:09:07 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: Reagan Man
Ann Coulter and Danny Deutsch are not just entertainers they are culture warriors battling in a struggle for the soul of the nation. Just as Hillary Clinton, Barbara boxer, and Dianne Feinstein have plotted to shut down talk radio, so Deutsche is attempting to muzzle Coulter by discrediting her. To do this Deutsch is playing the equivalent of the race card, in this case the bigotry card.The left knows what is at stake.

To permit Deutsche to ambush Coulter and play the bigotry card and let him do so unremarked is to tacitly admit that his version of political correctness ought to be adhered to. The black community did not raise hell about Don Imus for no reason. They are holding their turf in the culture war. The ADL did not jump on and Coulter for no reason, they are holding the moral high ground they have attained over generations in the culture war.

Too often conservatives and Christians have become casualties in this culture war they did not even know they were fighting. Here are the trenches where the cultural war will be won or lost. This is after all not just a matter of the high minded academics trading disputations of moot and intellectual points, rather this is where the mass of the voters are.

As to Coulter's remarks being bigoted, I only wish she had asked Danny Deutsch why he did not convert to Christianity? His only response can be that he regards it to be inferior to Judaism. Would you regard his answer as an off the wall and bigoted comment?


136 posted on 10/14/2007 10:14:47 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("I like to legislate. I feel I've done a lot of good." Sen. Robert Byrd)
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To: Reagan Man
Coulter demanding perfection is a joke.

Coulter did not demand perfection. Douchebag Donny put those words in her mouth.

Here are the relevant quotes from the interview:

Ann: We just want Jews to be perfected, as they say…

douche: If Ann Coulter had any brains she would not say Jews need to be perfected. I’m offended by that personally.

Ann only said that she wants Jews to be perfected. That's not a demand. The fearful douchebag put the word "need" in her sentence, giving people the false impression that she demands it.

137 posted on 10/14/2007 10:19:31 AM PDT by Vision Thing (The liberal Holy Trinity: big government, hollywood, and the globe.)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


138 posted on 10/14/2007 10:25:21 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ari-freedom; WFTR

>This is just one small part of a general pattern of hers that is turning people off from conservatives.<

Oh, so Ann Coulter is now turning people off from conservatives?

Christians, and practicing Jews all knew what she was talking about. We are not turned off. We knew what she was talking about because we understand Christianity. There are those who do not want Christians or Conservatives to be heard because we are a stumbling block to THEIR goals.

The left is always looking for some reason to divide the people. Fall for it at the country’s peril.


139 posted on 10/14/2007 10:59:51 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: neverdem

Excellent article.


140 posted on 10/14/2007 11:07:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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