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Frost Family Draws Ire of Conservatives ( MSM Fights Back! Free Republic mentioned)
The Baltimore Sun ^ | Wednesday, October 10, 2007 | Matthew Hay Brown

Posted on 10/10/2007 4:42:36 AM PDT by kristinn

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The onslaught began over the weekend, a week after 12-year-old Graeme Frost delivered the Democrats' weekly radio address with a plea to Bush to sign the bill. A contributor to the conservative Web site Free Republic noted Graeme's enrollment in the private Park School and the sale of a smaller rowhouse on the Frosts' block for $485,000 this year and questioned whether the family should be taking advantage of the state program.

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The Frosts say the description of their family's circumstances now circulating is misleading. Halsey, they say, is a self-employed woodworker - he has no employees - while Bonnie works part time for a medical publishing firm. Together, they say, they earn between $45,000 and $50,000 a year.

That would make the Frosts eligible for Maryland's Children's Health Program, which is open to families that earn no more than 300 percent of the federal poverty level, or $82,830 a year for a family of six.

The Frosts declined to show The Sun their 2006 income tax returns...

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Halsey Frost purchased the family home for $55,000 in 1990, according to city records, and refinanced in 2005, he says, to make improvements to accommodate the return of Graeme and Gemma from the hospital. The 1936 brick rowhouse, on a side street near Patterson Park, has an assessed value of $263,140.

Halsey Frost purchased a 1920 warehouse in East Baltimore for $160,000 in 1999, according to city records. It is assessed at $160,500. Frost says he is still paying off the mortgages on both properties.

The four Frost children depend on financial aid to attend private school, the Frosts say. In addition, they say, Gemma receives money from the city for special education made necessary by her injuries.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: 110th; fraud; graemefrost; healthcare; icwhatudo; schip; socialism; subsidies
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To: Steve_Seattle

Yep. Was he the one who was driving when the children got hurt? Why is he only working intermittently? Plus his wife is only working part time. What parents do that and expect to support a family??!! Get a full time job!!!


161 posted on 10/10/2007 8:48:46 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: Suzy Quzy
Pelosi fired back yesterday. "I think that the attack on this family is just breaking new ground and stooping to new lows in terms of what happens in Washington, D.C.," she told reporters. "I think it's a sad statement about how bankrupt some of these people are in their arguments against SCHIP that they attack a 12-year-old."

Lets be fair Nancy, it was a 12-year-old child, who was exploited for partisan gain to parrot the DemocRATic party line, BY YOU and Harry the Liar Reid.

Have you no shame???

Sorry, stupid question on my part.

162 posted on 10/10/2007 8:50:43 AM PDT by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: gracesdad

The children were not born with brain injuries. They could well afford the insurance, but instead opted for real estate investments.

Now, after the fact, they would have to pay a lot more for insurance, but by law the insurance companies could not outright deny them.


163 posted on 10/10/2007 8:52:43 AM PDT by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: RGSpincich

I suspect you are right. That is why I said if they want to be believed, then they need to release their IRS filings.


164 posted on 10/10/2007 8:54:15 AM PDT by msg-84 (Semper Fidelis)
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To: Agent Smith
The Dems sent out a 12 year old like a child BOMBER telling LIES and it sounds like his FAMILY are TAX EVADERS!!!

Yes, Nanny Nancy....we don't like LIARS of ANY age....and we sure don't like TAX CHEATS!! HARD WORKING people PAID for this child because the parents WOULDN"T get insurance when they could have!!

165 posted on 10/10/2007 8:55:51 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: kristinn; icwhatudo
Linking in follow up article by Freeper  icwhatudo

Did I Really Start A Firestorm in Washington? ^

166 posted on 10/10/2007 9:31:55 AM PDT by zeugma (Ubuntu - Linux for human beings)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I still haven’t heard where the fourth child goes to school.

I live right in the area with all these schools, and know tons of people that go to them. I know that they offer some aid, but these kids do not fit the profile of the kind which would get MASSIVE assistance. I would also assume that financial aid forms for the private schools would, like college aid forms, explore the assets of the family.

The more typical full-ride recipient would usually be an inner-city child with a single parent, who has also shown significant academic promise. And these scholarships are also quite limited in number.

If Park gave every liberal Volvo-driving “I love city life” bumper-sticker-sporting family that much money, they’d have a serious financial problem. Because that’s EXACTLY the type that Park attracts.


167 posted on 10/10/2007 9:34:54 AM PDT by jaybee
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To: Suzy Quzy
UNREPORTED INCOME

I was thinking it was unreported to the SCHIP. IRS probably knows about it. The Frosts have to show some income on a property they claim mortgage interest on and that they probably depreciate.

168 posted on 10/10/2007 9:44:19 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: cinives
The mother is quoted as saying that she hit black ice and the vehicle went out of control. As it hit one large unmoving object the daughter was thrown from the vehicle. As it slammed into the second object (it was spinning) the son was thrown from the vehicle.

While it’s entirely possible the kids had undone their seatbelts as they traveled it does sound to me that they were unbelted.

Personally, I wonder who was the registered owner of the families vehicles? I have a hunch that they were owned by the LLC and therefore Mr. Frost had only carried liability on the vehicle involved in the accident. If he was too cheap to insure his family why would he insure a mere SUV?

Also, would be surprised if he had refinanced his own home to buy the warehouse that houses his business. I suspect that he did that with a SBA low interest loan.

This family has held itself up to the nation as victims with their child as their spokes person. They have cried out “look at us!!!! See how bad Bush is!!!! Look as us!!!”

Now people are looking at them and they are whining about harassment and scurrying back under their taxpayer subsidized luxury rock.

A Pox on their house.

169 posted on 10/10/2007 10:02:57 AM PDT by silver charm (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: silver charm

I didn’t know the kids were thrown. It’s no wonder they had problems.

And I agree with the rest you said. You know what they say about glass houses ...


170 posted on 10/10/2007 10:21:48 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT; kristinn

The Frosts’ live in a home that is over 4,000 sq. ft. - an end unit. A similar, smaller interior house sold a few doors away last year for $485,000. Looking at the interior pictures of the kitchen in the news media, it looks like no expense was spared when updating the kitchen - granite counters, new cabinets, etc. I think everyone can figure this story out.

As another poster pointed out the other day, too, did the Foster’s have health insurance for the birth of their children? Who paid the hospital bills?

Personally, not providing health insurance for your four children when it is obvious that you could afford to do so, is beyond irresponsible. Trotting your twelve year old son out into the media fray to advance your political agenda is beyond repulsive.


171 posted on 10/10/2007 10:21:50 AM PDT by khnyny (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it..Aristotle)
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To: khnyny
The Frosts’ live in a home that is over 4,000 sq. ft.

Actually its their commercial property that is over 4,000sf, the home is just over 3,000sf.

- an end unit. A similar, smaller interior house sold a few doors away last year for $485,000.

The 485,000 house was also an end unit but 1000sf smaller.

Looking at the interior pictures of the kitchen in the news media, it looks like no expense was spared when updating the kitchen - granite counters, new cabinets, etc. I think everyone can figure this story out.

USA Today snorted "and by the way the counters aren't granite, they're concrete"...Only problem is, just like the they did on the rest of this story they did not look into the facts...concrete is more expensive than granite. LOL

172 posted on 10/10/2007 10:30:23 AM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: icwhatudo

I’m including the basement footage. 3,040 sq. ft.- house, 1,120 - basement.


173 posted on 10/10/2007 10:37:07 AM PDT by khnyny (It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it..Aristotle)
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To: khnyny

Gotcha.


174 posted on 10/10/2007 10:40:59 AM PDT by icwhatudo (The rino borg...is resistance futile?)
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To: cinives
My oldest daughter was killed in a car wreck. It was a 15 year old POS that her boyfriend owned. When he drove into oncoming traffic and the car was hit broadside, she (belted in) was thrown into other side of the car and killed. The seatbelt she was wearing was actually ripped from the place it was bolted into. So that is another way a person can be belted in and still be killed in an accident.

I just think that given that this was a newer vehicle and the belts were in primed condition, and the children in question probably didn’t weigh much, that the seat belts just weren’t worn at the time of the accident.

Also, though it’s not what your post is about; I not seen one single post on this or any of the other conservative boards I visit that condemns criticizes or attacks these poor kids. Have you?

175 posted on 10/10/2007 10:51:06 AM PDT by silver charm (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: icwhatudo
From the property rolls I see that the 104 S. Collington address is not their principal residence. Wonder where they live?

Principal Residence
An indicator of whether the property is the owner's principal residence. "Yes" indicates the property is the owner's principal residence. Only the owner's principal residence is eligible for the Homestead Tax Credit, the Homeowners' Tax Credit, and local income tax offset credits.

Can't believe they would forgo all these homeowner benefits if they were entitled. They must claim the credit elsewhere. Where is the question.

176 posted on 10/10/2007 11:04:14 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: bill1952
I realize my statement was ambiguous. I'm sorry.

I don't think I said that the financially successful grandparents should "co-sign" or "sign" for the loan.

I was trying to highlight the pose of "innocence about life's exigencies" that the the parents of the injured children are assuming.

Those parents are acting like they themselves are victims who are innocent of the ways of the world.

If they are such naive people, then they can be helped, by their "wise" and "successful" parents, through the steps of applying for a loan or they can be helped through the steps of arranging for a better schedule of repayment.

How about government-guaranteed loans to help families pay off medical debt...similar to government guaranteed loans which pay for college?

177 posted on 10/10/2007 11:07:31 AM PDT by syriacus (''You sit down. You've had your say, and now I'm going to have my say.'' H Dean to an Iowan, 1/2004)
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To: Steve_Seattle
That guy must not do much carpentering if he’s only making about $35,000 a year.

Maybe, in his "down" time, he does work for free for older people in his neighborhood?????

178 posted on 10/10/2007 11:13:04 AM PDT by syriacus (''You sit down. You've had your say, and now I'm going to have my say.'' H Dean to an Iowan, 1/2004)
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To: silver charm

I’m sorry about your daughter.


179 posted on 10/10/2007 11:15:24 AM PDT by syriacus (''You sit down. You've had your say, and now I'm going to have my say.'' H Dean to an Iowan, 1/2004)
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To: silver charm

No, not at all. The only thing anyone is attacking is the family’s income and their expectations that the government will take care of them instead of taking care of their own.

FWIW my cousin was killed in a head-on car crash at 60 mph with seat belt buckled. The lethal injury ? Brain stem injury due to the head impacting the head rest on bounce-back.


180 posted on 10/10/2007 11:17:54 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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