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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, MI 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 10/09/2007 11:58:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, Michigan 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

CNBC/MSNBC/The Wall Street Journal are jointly sponsoring the first Republican Presidential debate of the 2008 campaign focusing on economic issues. It will be held on October 9 in Dearborn, Michigan at the University of Michigan-Dearborn at the Ford Community and Performing Arts Center. Broadcast is live on CNBC at 4 PM ET (1 PM PT) and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 PM ET (6 PM PT). CNBC's Maria Bartiromo and MSNBC's Chris Matthews will host the debate.

Live streaming on CNBC.com

Candidates participating:



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: brownback; chrismatthews; cnbc; dearborn; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; hunter; johnmccain; matthews; mccain; mi2008; michigan; mikehuckabee; mittromney; msnbc; paul; paulestinians; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; spartansixdelta; tancredo; thompson; tomtancredo
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To: LibLieSlayer
Fred owned this debate on persona and gravitas.

Fred started a little shaky, but once he relaxed he did much better.

But to say he owned it...I understand you support him, but that's a bit of an exaggeration.

But he's your guy,so I understand your relief at him not screwing up. 8^)

1,501 posted on 10/09/2007 3:36:33 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

>> The fact of the matter is that Ron Paul supporters are either more motivated or they are experts at voting and then deleting cookies and can manipulate their IP addresses like a cat burglar does a safe.

I think it is more likely a combination of (1) Paulistas spamming polls, and (2) Democrats spamming Republican polls to skew them in favor of the antiwar candidate.

H


1,502 posted on 10/09/2007 3:36:43 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: taildragger

that’s all I need...confirmation from that nut job!


1,503 posted on 10/09/2007 3:36:47 PM PDT by TN Conserative
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To: pillut48

Oops, now Mike is ahead! Gracious, this poll is useless, ha ha..:-)


1,504 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:36 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: Paperdoll

Somebody earlier made a comment about Hunter coming across as too mean or angry, but it’s just perception (or maybe projection). But yes, Keyes is one of the greatest minds of our time and I find him to be a valuable voice and has helped me fine-tune my arguments and debate skills.


1,505 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:50 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08)
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To: Hemorrhage
I’m hoping that Thompson can be the authoritative voice of conservatism - and be a conservative Goliath to take down the other two. H

Romney is the best political tap dancer to appear on the public stage since the Rapist-in-Chief.Rudy is a spinmeister extraordinaire. I am have my doubts on Thompson's ideology, but what the MSM see as his weakness will be his strength when it comes to the voters who vote in real primaries. With Fred less is more. The fact that as Shakespeare said of Cassius, he has that lean and hungry look about him, so it is with Romney and Giuliani. The constant willingness to say or do anything to please is difficult to sustain in such a long electoral process. Thompson is an actor and he understands underplaying your role is often a more compelling approach than the overacting of Mitt and Rudy.

1,506 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:50 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: SHEENA26
Mitt won this one hands down.

I'm pulling for Romney, but I'll attempt to be objective:

Whether or not Romney won, this debate performance was one of his best so far.

Romney stood out clearly in these respects:

Romney had, if not the best, the most humorous lines:


1,507 posted on 10/09/2007 3:37:56 PM PDT by Swordfished
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To: airborne

He did great and tied the ribbons on it with laughter. “Leave ‘em laughing”!
:-)

LLS


1,508 posted on 10/09/2007 3:38:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: JFC
I agree Fred is not going to get the female vote wtih those bags. Fred might have peaked and is old news imho.

S'cuse me? To me he's a handsome man....not only physically but intellectually.....the latter meaning more to me than anything.

1,509 posted on 10/09/2007 3:38:13 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

We’ll see for sure when the first primary occurs.

Unless Dems are allowed to participate.


1,510 posted on 10/09/2007 3:38:28 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: davidosborne

You’re kidding! He’s an embarrassment .. who invited him in?


1,511 posted on 10/09/2007 3:39:12 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

I think Hunter and Fred were the only two being themselves with no regrets.

LLS


1,512 posted on 10/09/2007 3:39:13 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: pillut48

My hubby who hasn’t paid much attention thought Paul was Dennis Kucinich’s twin in GOP clothes! LOL

The top tier did not impress me much. Sometimes I almost liked McCain, God help me. I hate his immigration and border stance.

Fred was okay, a safe bet, Rooty just Rooty, Romney still unknown.

Brownback needs to drop out.

Hunter the best pro American people candidate.

No Rudy, no Paul, no Brownback. They should take a hike.

As far as guts go? Tancredo was the winner, even though he hasn’t a chance.


1,513 posted on 10/09/2007 3:39:31 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: airborne

Agreed. Fred survived ... and he showed some promise toward the end ... but to say he owned it is to drop all pretense of objectivity.


1,514 posted on 10/09/2007 3:39:49 PM PDT by Oliver Optic (Never blame on strategery that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: JFC
I am coming to the conclusion fred is a bore.

IF you want to be entertained...turn on Jay Leno.

1,515 posted on 10/09/2007 3:40:20 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Pravious
Hi, I don’t care for Maria myself, she is too much of a Wall Street shill, but she is definitely a pro-business type and not a leftist.
1,516 posted on 10/09/2007 3:40:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Fawn

I’m with you, Fawn. Conservative voters are not quite as shallow as some of the comments I’ve seen here about Fred.

Just found out that Chris is only 3 years younger than Fred!
Guess that means he’s OLDOLDOLD too! :-)


1,517 posted on 10/09/2007 3:40:24 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I’d take Fred over Johnnie or Rudy.


1,518 posted on 10/09/2007 3:40:41 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Oliver Optic

I see it the way that I see it. You are free to do likewise. I will not degrade you for having a different opinion. We will be in the same trench fighting the same enemy soon.

LLS


1,519 posted on 10/09/2007 3:40:52 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: ellery
Yes you did hear that. In case of eminent danger Gov. Romney will gather his lawyers so he can decide what to do.
1,520 posted on 10/09/2007 3:41:34 PM PDT by linn37 (Phlebotomists need love too.)
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