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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, MI 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

Posted on 10/09/2007 11:58:39 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #8 – Dearborn, Michigan 10/09/07 - Official Discussion Thread

CNBC/MSNBC/The Wall Street Journal are jointly sponsoring the first Republican Presidential debate of the 2008 campaign focusing on economic issues. It will be held on October 9 in Dearborn, Michigan at the University of Michigan-Dearborn at the Ford Community and Performing Arts Center. Broadcast is live on CNBC at 4 PM ET (1 PM PT) and re-broadcast on MSNBC at 9 PM ET (6 PM PT). CNBC's Maria Bartiromo and MSNBC's Chris Matthews will host the debate.

Live streaming on CNBC.com

Candidates participating:



TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: brownback; chrismatthews; cnbc; dearborn; debate; debate2007; duncanhunter; elections2008; fredthompson; giuliani; gopdebate; hunter; johnmccain; matthews; mccain; mi2008; michigan; mikehuckabee; mittromney; msnbc; paul; paulestinians; presidentialdebate; republican; republicandebate; romney; ronpaul; rudygiuliani; sambrownback; spartansixdelta; tancredo; thompson; tomtancredo
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To: airborne
Umm - 96 % of viewers of CNBC are liberals and kooks!!

Only a slight exaggeration. By definition, if they are watching CNBC they must have some money, nobody watches it for entertainment value. I never understood why people would voluntarily vote for candidates who want to take their money from them. I guess I never will.

1,481 posted on 10/09/2007 3:28:25 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: txflake
How’s your audio? Mine sucks.

Sorry about not getting back here once the fun began (had a live blog going), but it wasn't exactly sterling. Then again, I have CNBC available on the TV to my right.

1,482 posted on 10/09/2007 3:28:38 PM PDT by steveegg (I am John Doe, and a monthly donor)
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To: TalonDJ

Did Alan rethink his choice to get in the race?

I love the guy but didn’t think that would have been a wise move.

My Hunter for Pres I am worried is going to be a possible as Alan Keyes as Pres. when he ran.

King Vanity is all for Mitt.


1,483 posted on 10/09/2007 3:28:40 PM PDT by Global2010 ( The Lord has heard ya'lls prayers for many in need.)
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To: jmyrlefuller

My! The Paulenistas have been busy!! :-)

Guess I’ll have to vote for him now—he’s the obvious winner of EVERYTHING in the universe.

/sarc


1,484 posted on 10/09/2007 3:28:43 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: jmyrlefuller

The RP spammers have been very busy. lol.


1,485 posted on 10/09/2007 3:29:27 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: jmyrlefuller

Man— the Paulbearers are running that poll.


1,486 posted on 10/09/2007 3:29:43 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Thompson '08)
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To: eeevil conservative

Whatever the reason for Hunter’s inability to gain traction with the voters, it is a reality. He is polling around 1 or 2 percent. He is not raising much money. Unless he can turn this around, he is not a viable candidate. I am not taking great pleasure out of that fact, but I am trying to take an objective look at who will be the nominee. The MSM is definitely pushing Rudy and McCain, And judging from Bartlett’s remarks, the WH seems to be involved as well.


1,487 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:03 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Hemorrhage
I think it’s more likely that 80% of Ron Paul supporters don’t have jobs, and have the time to spam internet polls.

Yeah, they're experts at spaming. Their so good at it that they "spamed" five million dollars into the Paul campaign, more than any other "bottom tier" candidate.

1,488 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:18 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Let me suggest that the wager be this:

Loser must post: (”Captain Kirk” or “Eric Blair” is a genius and I am stupid) prior to any post they make on any FR thread for a week.


1,489 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:37 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: commonguymd
He called him “Christopher” earlier. Absolute show of disdain to the partisan hack by Fred.

Did you hear the silence when Fred said "That's your opinion."? Matthews looked a little stunned, even for him. He kind of choked on whether to respond to that or moveon.org. He moved on. LOLOL

1,490 posted on 10/09/2007 3:30:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Hillary can tap Hsus but you can't tuna fish.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

I was being sarcastic, but you must agree that the vast majority are liberals. And they’re having a fun time and a good laugh voting for Ron Paul.


1,491 posted on 10/09/2007 3:31:28 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: dschapin
He will destroy hildebeast... he took care of every single one of those men tonight. His humor was genuine as were his statements. Listening to Fred is like having a conversation with him... the others were far to canned. Fred owned this debate on persona and gravitas.

LLS

1,492 posted on 10/09/2007 3:32:16 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: Captain Kirk
Maybe, maybe not....HE still is going to hurt the rat ticket. WHAT is he going to do after he loses the primaries?? Third party ticket..unless he gets paid under the table not to run by soros or the SHE-DEVILS camp! Sorry buddy, but he doesn’t have a chance of a prayer to win the nominee in our base! Don’t want to hurt your feelings but that’s the fact!
1,493 posted on 10/09/2007 3:32:49 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: carton253
And we hear from airborne...whose posts are nothing but scintillating and profound.

Yes, I know. Everybody says so! ;^)

1,494 posted on 10/09/2007 3:33:11 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Captain Kirk

>> Their so good at it that they “spamed” five million dollars into the Paul campaign, more than any other “bottom tier” candidate.

That’s like $2.5 Million Dollars per percentage point.

Is it not possible that Democrats and fellow wacko leftists have been donating to Paul on the off chance that they can get an anti-war Republican candidate ... and thus have an anti-war vs. anti-war election in 2008?

Is it also not possible that anti-war liberals are skewing these online polls in favor of anti-war Paul?

H


1,495 posted on 10/09/2007 3:33:24 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor (How 'Bout Them Cowboys!!!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Savage just gave Fred a thumbs up on his show after his response on the war on terror. Interesting....


1,496 posted on 10/09/2007 3:34:04 PM PDT by taildragger
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To: Biblebelter

Fred’s presence itself does not margininalize the rest of the field. Take more time away from the other eight candidates, sure, all things being equal (as always I’d like to see an actual time breakdown per candidate).

Now the only way the rest of the field gets marginalized is that the mainstream media will give a plurality of attention to “Fred’s first debate.” The rest of the field has gotten marginalized anyway in all the prior debates, so not much changes there anyway. Just another excuse for the fluff the media likes to concentrate on.

But that’s more a statement on the media itself than on what Fred does or doesn’t do.


1,497 posted on 10/09/2007 3:34:04 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (Duncan Hunter / Alan Keyes '08)
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To: airborne

MSNBC yes. CNBC I don’t think so. Like I said why would Capitalists vote for Socialists. It does happen but...

The fact of the matter is that Ron Paul supporters are either more motivated or they are experts at voting and then deleting cookies and can manipulate their IP addresses like a cat burglar does a safe.


1,498 posted on 10/09/2007 3:34:35 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Hemorrhage
Is it also not possible that anti-war liberals are skewing these online polls in favor of anti-war Paul? Ya think? LOL! :-) BUT one good thing, if you throw Dr. Paul out of the equation on the CNBC poll, Fred Thompson is winning!! :-)
1,499 posted on 10/09/2007 3:35:26 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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To: taildragger

Thanks for the heads-up!

LLS


1,500 posted on 10/09/2007 3:36:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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