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Thompson to Dobson (take a hike)
NRO ^ | 10/4/2007 | Byron York

Posted on 10/04/2007 5:25:13 AM PDT by Neville72

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To: danamco
I forgot your second question. I consider myself a Christian but a very imperfect one. I have always believed in God and Christ. I became a Catholic back in 97 and my beleif in God and Christ was affirmed when my wife - already a brest cancer survivor - had another lump discovered in 98. She went back one week later and it was gone. Without a doubt, I believed that God removed that lump. And while my wife and I struggle with our faith, my wife has used her life since then to help other women with cancer by taking them to her doctor, improving their recovery chances, etc.

And I became a Catholic because while my wife was raised as a Catholic, she left the Church years ago. After being diagnosed with brest cancer, I saw that she was floundering, sometimes in despair and sadness. Talking with her, I told her that I would become a Catholic if it meant getting her back to God. She went to confession and I became a Catholic.

The 'born agains' are those people who have come back to God and Christ and their manner is so holier-than-thou because they act and behave in a manner that your belief will never be as strong as theirs. I see this even in the Catholic faith. If you read some of the replies to me in this thread, I am automatically assumed to be non-Christian because I dare to challenge or disagree with them. Concernign this thread, I have had some privately freepmail me and agree with me. They do this because they probably do not want the headache of being attacked by the born-agains.

281 posted on 10/04/2007 9:36:29 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Theo
This uncertainty has been mischaracterized by Dobson-haters as some sort of definite statement that Dobson thinks Fred not to be a Christian. That's not what he said.

The quote, in it's full context, is very clear: you are wrong.

282 posted on 10/04/2007 9:37:57 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: xsmommy
I respect your view..... and agree to disagree.
xsmommy....this is an ever changing political climate, for sure.
283 posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:02 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: allmendream

out of context...btw....I do not believe everything I read, I am selective.


284 posted on 10/04/2007 9:38:22 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Theo

Are you saying you have to attend a church to be a christian? I gave up organized churches long ago, they became too political for me. But I do read the Bible and follow the teachings of Christ. I don’t have to go to church to be a christian. Now you’re being judgemental. Tell me where in the Bible it says in order to be a christian you HAVE to go to church? Remember, religion is man-made. I prefer putting my trust in God, not a church.


285 posted on 10/04/2007 9:40:43 AM PDT by Not just another dumb blonde
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To: Guenevere

i consider myself a neutral party in this, as i had neither love for, nor dislike for, Dr. Dobson. Looking at it objectively i think Dr. Dobson mishandled it and made insufficient efforts to try to clear up the misunderstanding. it is also interesting that those who are defending Dr. Dobson, herein, are largely opposed to Fred’s candidacy anyway. i find no fault with Fred’s reaction in this interview.


286 posted on 10/04/2007 9:40:54 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Tarpon
Who does this Dobson character think he is?

He's supposedly becoming a cardinal.

Politicians less firm-spined than Thompson hope so... then, they'll only have to kiss his ring.

287 posted on 10/04/2007 9:41:07 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Dead Dog
Dobson has no place judging anothers faith.

Everyone riding the red truck, should do as they wish.
The overall objective, as I see it, is to elect
Conservatives at the Local, State, and Federal levels.
A Win One For The Gipper, type situation.

I do not know for certain but I have to believe this is
nothing more than an attempt to stop....I said STOP
the real objective and that objective is to elect
Conservatives. I care not for a fight. I have done my
best to avoid a fight. But when it comes to the media
agenda, I will say what I think, just as I hope you will.

288 posted on 10/04/2007 9:43:15 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk. I Will Be Voting for Mr. Duncan Hunter, fellow FReepers.)
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To: Guenevere

i also can agree to disagree. but i don’t like to see anti-Dobson animus, or insufficient Christianity, listed as reasons for feeling that Dr. Dobson mishandled this. it is simply not true.


289 posted on 10/04/2007 9:44:08 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: 7thson

The reason why I wrote, “...if you’re interesed” - is proved in your reply.

You aren’t. LOL


290 posted on 10/04/2007 9:45:22 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (The DemocRAT Party is a Criminal Enterprise)
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To: BibChr

Piffle. I, for one, want a President with a spine, not a strand of boiled linguini. Standing up to one blowhard who thinks he speaks for God (Dobson) is good practice for standing up to another blowhard who thinks he speaks for God (Imanutjob or whatever that Iranian guy’s name is).


291 posted on 10/04/2007 9:45:54 AM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: Ferox
Dobson’s proclamation that Thompson isn’t a Christian should be something that all people condemn

It's been said MANY times on this thread but apparently you still don't get it.

DOBSON NEVER SAID THOMPSON WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN!

That being said, I am not a Dobson groupie...I mean I'm grateful for him or Robertson or Falwell or any of the christians who have helped in the cause for the last 30 years. But I do belive Dobson's threat to go 3rd party is silly.

292 posted on 10/04/2007 9:48:13 AM PDT by what's up
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To: I'm ALL Right!; Bryan24

Well, Falwell is dead, so I can see why you’re not following his lead. I’m also not going to parrott Dobson’s line, but there is no question that if they field a “Christian” candidate, it will make it easier for Hillary to win. She may do so anyway, though.


293 posted on 10/04/2007 9:49:19 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: xsmommy
Again if it's true what Fred said....

..like BibCh, I too find it very strange to disconnect (so early in the game) from millions of folks who care/love/support Dr.Dobson.

It really doesn't make sense.....

If I'm reading it correctly, it sounds like he could care less what Dobson thinks and believe it or not, that translates to millions of Dobson listeners the same thing.

Maybe lots of Freepers as well as many in the US wish Dobson would shut-up or go away....

..it's not going to happen and he does have loyal listeners across the nation.

He doesn't tell them what to do, but we revere, respect and support him across the board.

He's not infallible, but he's honest & corrects his mistakes when they are made.

294 posted on 10/04/2007 9:50:03 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: xsmommy
Did you happen to see my #275?

There will continue to be anti-Dobson, anti-Christian animus until this election is settled!....sadly

295 posted on 10/04/2007 9:54:38 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Afronaut

The quote came out in March. Has Dobson disavowed it? Has he said something to the effect of “I never said that, the quote is false, I’m being misquoted, etc.?”


296 posted on 10/04/2007 9:54:55 AM PDT by Petronski (Congratulations Tribe! AL Central Champs)
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To: xsmommy
I'm going to take a small nap now...

I was up early for a doctor's visit....(have been making several of those)

..I'm tired.

Later friend.

297 posted on 10/04/2007 9:56:32 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter...President '08)
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To: Guenevere
if Dobson supporters were to react that way to what fred said, i would think less of them. surely people can respect someone who doesn't feel the need to justify their faith to anyone who presumes to question it, which is precisely what Dr. Dobson did. he may not have affirmatively SAID that Thompson was not a Christian, but he most certainly DID question it.

i truly cannot see how Christians, of which I AM ONE, could possibly take it as a "diss" that Thompson doesn't particularly feel the need to justify his faith to someone else. i believe that Fred THompson is a Christian and that he is not looking to alienate OTHER Christians in the slightest by refusing to pander to Dr. Dobson, which is exactly how it would be construed if he then were to ask to speak to Dr. Dobson to CONVINCE him of his faith. Since Dr. Dobson was the one to question the veracity of Fred's faith, it seems much more incumbent on Dr. Dobson to apologize to Fred for that, than for Fred to apologize for not feeling the need to justify his faith.

298 posted on 10/04/2007 9:57:59 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Guenevere

go rest, we have a long way to go : )


299 posted on 10/04/2007 9:58:50 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Perchant

It was not a ‘hard hitting’ interview. Hannity was introducing Mr. & Mrs. Thompson to Mr. & Mrs. America. :-)

Fred has had many hard hitting interviews, you can find a lot of them online at his website fred08.com and at youtube.com.


300 posted on 10/04/2007 9:59:38 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud RUSH REPUBLICAN! WIN, FRED, WIN!!!)
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