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Ahmadinejad's overlooked message
The Jerusalem Post ^ | September 28, 2007 | Caroline Glick

Posted on 10/01/2007 10:36:12 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch

During his visit to New York this week, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad attacked every basic assumption upon which Western civilization is predicated. Ahmadinejad offered up his attacks while extolling his vision of Islamic global domination.

Refusing to note his existential challenge to the Free World, the Western media concentrated their coverage of his trip on his statements regarding specific Western policy goals. His rejection of the UN Security Council's authority to take action against Iran's illicit nuclear weapons program; his championing of the Palestinian cause and Israel's destruction; his denials of Iranian support for terrorism, and his attacks against the US were widely reported. So too, his insistence that Iranian women enjoy full rights and that there are no homosexuals in Iran received banner headlines.

Ahmadinejad gave two major addresses this week - at Columbia University and at the UN General Assembly. He devoted both to putting forward his vision for global Islamic domination. And while the Western media sought hidden meanings and signals for peaceful intentions in his words, the fact is that on both occasions, Ahmadinejad made absolutely clear that his vision of Islamic domination cannot coexist in any manner with Western civilization. Consequently, Ahmadinejad's statements were not negotiating stances. They were the direct consequence of the world view he propounds. As such, they are non-negotiable.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; carolineglick; columbiauniversity; crushislam; culturewar; globaljihad; islamicimperialism; islamiclaw; islamicsupremacist; islaminamerica; islamonazism; mahmoud; prodictator; terrorism; wot
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I was so impressed with Caroline Glicks assesment of the recent visit by mahmoud, that I had to share this column with my freeper pals.

Jenny Hatch

1 posted on 10/01/2007 10:36:16 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch
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To: Jenny Hatch

Here is my blog entry on this column:

http://www.naturalfamilyblog.com/archives/001151.html

Jen


2 posted on 10/01/2007 10:37:25 AM PDT by Jenny Hatch (Mommy Blogger)
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To: Jenny Hatch

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903890/posts?page=50#50

These comments were interesting regarding last week’s visit to the US by Iran’s president...

From IRNA, the official state-run news agency in Iran...

President: World People Heard Iranian Voice In Columbia University

President-Cabinet meeting

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday that thanks to grace of God, the world people heard voice of Iranian nation whose positive effects will appear in future.

He said in his report to the cabinet meeting that his visit to New York was successful and that the enemy’s attempt to sabotage the meeting in University of Columbia failed.
“They had attempted to isolate Iran by sabotaging ordinary process of the meeting in Columbia university, but, thanks to grace of God, they got negative result.”

President Ahmadinejad said that those who were present in the meeting and observed the entire program got the sense that Iranian officials were honest and what the manipulation had been made by the organizers beforehand.

He said that the Islamic Republic of Iran has plans for the international peace which is in contradiction with that of the World Arrogance.

“Though the enemy had made preparations for not allowing Iran (president) to make his voice heard, but, they could not succeed and thanks to grace of God the world people heard our voice.”

Press reports said that 500 million audience of three international television networks listened to Iranian president’s remarks in University of Columbia.

President Ahmadinejad received emblem of ‘Dove of Peace’ from the Society of US Churches.

Supreme Leader: President’s Visit To US, Brought Honor To Nation
Tehran, Oct 1, IRNA
Leader-President-Meeting

Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said the Iranian president’s recent visit to the US was a good and blessed event which brought honor to the Iranian nation.

In a meeting with President MAhmoud Ahmadinajad Sunday evening, Ayattolah Khamenei said: “your speech at Columbia Universtiy and what happened there as well as your address at the United Nations General Assembly session on the whole honored the Iranian nation.” The Leader praised Ahmadninejad’s statements and attitude during his visit.

In the meeting the president presented a report on his visit to the US ,Bolivia and Venezuela.

(and Duncan Hunter’s response: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903890/posts )


3 posted on 10/01/2007 10:41:08 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Jenny Hatch
The victors of the war drew the road map for global domination and formulated their policies not on the basis of justice but for ensuring the interests of the victors over the vanquished nations."

Then how does he explain Japan and Germany? Both independent, and economic power houses.

4 posted on 10/01/2007 10:48:47 AM PDT by Edgerunner (If you won't let the military fight your battles, you will have to. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: Jenny Hatch

bump


5 posted on 10/01/2007 10:49:50 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Jenny Hatch
During my careless youth, my class was studying the Battle of Salamis and our teacher, a crustily amusing old fellow said,

Gentlemen, if the Greeks had lost
The Battle of Salamis,
there would be no such thing as night baseball!

Thank you Jenny, for helping me to finally understand the full implications of that remark

6 posted on 10/01/2007 10:50:34 AM PDT by Zerodown (Draft Petraeus. Let's win this one.)
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To: Jenny Hatch
THE POINT in all of this couldn't be clearer. And Ahmadinejad made it at every opportunity. The Free World today finds itself embroiled in an ideological war for its very survival. Our enemies - whether Shi'ite or Sunni - are followers of a totalitarian ideology based on Islam which tells them that Allah wishes to rule the world through them. Israel is a central front in this war.

The Free World is morally justified in the overthrow of this government, and its replacement with a government that shares Western values.

7 posted on 10/01/2007 11:23:03 AM PDT by mjp (Live & let live. I don't want to live in Mexico, Marxico, or Muslimico. Statism & high taxes suck.)
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To: mjp

“But no matter how ugly an ideology is, in the absence of real competition it gains adherents and power. The only way to ensure that jihadists’ demonic views are defeated is by stridently defending and upholding the fundamental principles on which the Free World is based. And the West hasn’t even begun to take up this challenge.”

“As a result, it has handed its enemies two victories already. It has demoralized its potential allies in the Islamic world, and it has failed to rally its own people to defend themselves.”

“In spite of what the West would like to believe, Ahmadinejad and his allies from Ramallah to Waziristan, from Gaza to Kandahar to Baghdad, are not negotiating. They are fighting. Rather than ignore them or seek to find nonexistent common ground, we must defeat them - first and foremost on the battleground of ideas.”


8 posted on 10/01/2007 12:01:11 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

ping.


9 posted on 10/01/2007 12:39:25 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Thanks for the ping....


10 posted on 10/01/2007 1:36:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: mjp
The Main Stream Media as an instrument of the Leftist will NOT Distribute the Message...that War has been declared.....

See this:

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There is a book (now available in paperback ):

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Unholy Alliance: Radical Islam and the American Left
(Hardcover)
by David Horowitz

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And reviews:

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Editorial Reviews

Rich Lowry, Editor National Review

David Horowitz is synonymous with pyrotechnics. A historian and polemicist of the first order, he is paid the ultimate compliment --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

Davis Hanson, Author, Ripples of Battle

An original look at those who want us to fail in the Middle East, both at home and abroad. The --This text refers to the Hardcover edition.

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See all Editorial Reviews

Fascinating Analysis of Leftist Goals, August 13, 2006

Reviewer: N. Sincerity - See all my reviews

A former 1960s radical, Horowitz is well-acquainted with the Leftist mindset. In this book, he strives to explain the modern alliance between left wing progressivists and radical Islamofascists. He argues that this alliance is based on a common desire to destroy Western capitalism. Leftist sympathy with Islamofascist ideas makes no sense from an intellectual point of view, given that countries ruled by radical Islamists are among the most racist, sexist, theocratic states in the world today. However, Leftists have recognized that they can benefit politically from destructive terrorist attacks on the Western world. A West under attack can be made to turn on its leaders in fear and desperation (as they did in Spain after the Madrid train bombings). Only once people reject current government structures can the Left execute its anti-capitalist revolution and build a new reality that mirrors the Leftist view of utopia.

The complete and utter idealogical hypocrisy of the Islamofascist-Leftist alliance is distressing, but as Horowitz reminds us,

Leftists radicals truly believe the ends justify the means.

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11 posted on 10/01/2007 1:44:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All
Current news from the Front:

Captured Iranian agent identified, 15 Special Groups operatives captured in Iraq

12 posted on 10/01/2007 1:46:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: mjp

A government that shares western values must be composed of westerners i.e. a colony because of the nature of Islam. There is no reform possible of Islam. Any reform is a negation of Islam because conversion/enslavement/death for all the world’s infidels is the basic irequirement of the religion.


13 posted on 10/01/2007 2:20:41 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: Jenny Hatch; All

What was this comment that US Church group gave Nut Job the “Dove of Peace” medal? Can you explain what that was about?

I am really glad to see support of women’s freedom of choice in life affairs. I am not sure that the antidote to radical expansionist Islam, is an equally expansionist Christianity. From our own European history our founding fathers realized the dangers of combining religion and government. It was the knowledge of the terrible wars and death tolls following Martin Luther’s protest, that convinced our early settlers to leave religion out of politics. Now the Muslims are discovering the horrors of this same lack of tolerance that ravaged Europe for several centuries.

Perhaps the wisest course is to value rational thought and an understanding of science, and encourage Muslims to return to a respect for science that once made them important. Of course, during their most successful period, Western women were in much the same condition Muslim women were and are. Perhaps we should be glad they subjugate their women, as they are thus throwing away half their potential for modern success and prosperity. We on the other hand are able to tap the abilities of all our adult population.


14 posted on 10/01/2007 4:45:15 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Jenny Hatch; SandRat; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; ...
From the Blogosphere ( Flopping Aces ):

While We Were Asleep

*********************EXCERPTS*********************

History does repeat itself, and those who fail to learn from it are doomed to repeat it. Is there a common, repetitive historical theme that connects the blitzkrieg across Europe, the Imperial Japanese sweep of the Pacific-including the Pearl Harbor attacks, and the attacks of September 11th, 2001? Of course there is! Prior to each of these geopolitical shockers, the people of Europe, the United States, and the bulk of the world for that matter had all been lulled into a false sense of security. These events happened while we were asleep, because we were asleep, and because our eyes were closed, we did not see the threats coming.

Sure there were those people who saw the dangers of NAZI Germany, fascist Italy, Imperial Japan, Communism, and of today's Jihad against the west.

"By the autumn of 1933 it was plain that neither by precept nor still less by example would the British effort for disarmament succeed. The pacifism of the Labour and Liberal Parties was not effected even by the grave event of the German withdrawal from the League of Nations. Both continued in the name of peace to urge British disarmament, and anyone who differed was called "warmonger" and "scaremonger." It appeared that their feeling was endorsed by the people, who of course did not understand what was unfolding."
-Winston Churchill, Memoirs of the Second World War
President Kennedy's description of the pre-World War II appeasement lullaby (the "sleeping period" as he labels it) illustrates the deliberate effort of populations to ignore threats-to make excuses-in even more clarity.
"The people of England hated war so much, they realized now more strongly than ever what it would mean to England and her position in the world, that they could not bring themselves to face its inevitability. Thus there were two ideas working in England from September 28, 1938, to September 3, 1939. One was a firm determination to build up her strength, and the other was a feeling that England might now have peace. Maybe Hitler might be satisfied; maybe he was merely bluffing; maybe he really meant it when he said this was his last territorial claim in Europe. We can see the effect of these feelings during the following months when Germany and the Soviets invaded Poland and World War II began."
-John F Kennedy, Why England Slept
"And we were certainly distracted. Terrorism happened somewhere else, not here. We were instead entertained and alternately repulsed by O.J. Simpson, JonBenet Ramsey, the booming stock market, Monica Lewinsky, and a host of matters that seem particularly shallow in light of 9/11. While many of America's best reporters chased hanging chads and butterfly ballots in Florida after the 2000 Presidential election, Mohammed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi were also in the state, learning to fly the planes that they would turn into giant bombs."
-Gerald Posner, Why America Slept
If history can be akin to an algebraic formula, then John F Kennedy's "sleep period" is a simple one:
Denial+Distraction=Dumbfounded
15 posted on 10/01/2007 4:52:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“If history can be akin to an algebraic formula, then John F Kennedy’s “sleep period” is a simple one:
Denial+Distraction=Dumbfounded”

What an insightful formula. That’s a keeper.


16 posted on 10/01/2007 5:46:59 PM PDT by quant5
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You bet.


17 posted on 10/01/2007 9:03:35 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (RUN Paul - a man proudly putting al Qaeda's interest ahead of America's.)
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To: Jenny Hatch

i know sunnis and shia in los angeles that

never denounce islamic terrorism,

even tho’ they hate the regimes that they escaped from.

in fact, they tacitly agree with it.

it’s the operative islam in their minds and hearts.


18 posted on 10/01/2007 9:15:04 PM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: gleeaikin
It was the knowledge of the terrible wars and death tolls following Martin Luther’s protest, that convinced our early settlers to leave religion out of politics.

You at least ought to familiarize yourself with the Compact that established the first basis in the new world for written laws, and after that you might want to take a look at the first written Constitution in Western history.

Cordially,

19 posted on 10/02/2007 8:28:27 AM PDT by Diamond
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To: Diamond

Are you referring to the Mayflower Compact and the Magna Carta?


20 posted on 10/02/2007 9:06:24 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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