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To: Locke_2007
I’ve watched many of my family, including both parents and one set of grandparents, die of cancer. Have you ever seen it?

Yes, many times including watching a grandparent die of pancreatic cancer last year.

There are no words to describe the horror and indignity and suffering of the tertiary stages of terminal cancer.

Dignity is who a person is, not how they look as they are dying. Did Christ have dignity as He was on the Cross covered in blood and being taunted?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with what this brave lady did - nothing. She went on her own terms,

Precisely, she determined that she would play god.

I suppose you believe everything comes from an all-loving God, right? Does that include cancer and unspeakable suffering?

I'm confused, do you deny the existence of God or His love for us?

209 posted on 10/01/2007 9:36:24 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

If you have witnessed what I have, and insist that life is always worth it no matter how badly you are suffering, then I can only say that your religious superstitions are getting in the way of your humanity, re:compassion. I do not deny the existence of God (it is, however, given the utter lack of evidence, extremely unlikely), but I have seen absolutely no evidence of God’s love or mercy for anyone or anything, either in my life nor in studying human history. If he exists, he’s not terribly interested in human suffering. The “playing God” cop-out is for those too weak or credulous to realize that we are in charge of our own fate; and must deal with life accordingly. No one else is going to do it for us. I suppose you would argue that Dr.s are “playing God” every time they save someone’s life using modern medicine. Are automobile designers “playing God” when they design newer, safer vehicles? Am I “playing God” when I decide to have (or not have) chemotherapy or surgery to remove cancer? I suppose we should just all let nature take it’s course if we become ill or injured, so as not to offend God’s sense of propriety?


211 posted on 10/01/2007 9:51:54 AM PDT by Locke_2007 (Liberals are non-sentient life forms)
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To: wagglebee

“Precisely, she determined that she would play god.”

And so what do you think of the person who decides to quit treatemnt knowing they could have lived a couple months longer — but still weould have died? Is that playing God? What about the doctor who gives that extra pain medication knowing that it might (or might not) be enough to kill?


216 posted on 10/01/2007 10:33:07 AM PDT by gracesdad
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