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To: Man50D

I was at a Republican group meeting the other night, and minority leader Boehner was there to speak. My cousin asked him about getting back to the social conservative roots. He said they have to get moderates and independents to vote, and the social conservatives will vote for the GOP because usually their candidates are socially conservative. My cousin pointed out that’s not happening as much, and he still said they have to pull the moderate and independent to vote. My cousin remarked that the social conservatives are the strong base that faithfully gets out there and works for the candidate, and a lot of them are getting frustrated about the drift from social conservative values. She said one of the candidates they won’t get behind is Guiliani. He seemed to disagree, and he proceeded to talk about how social conservatives love Guiliani (not this one) who he said will move further to the right. Basically, it didn’t feel like she got anywhere. He seemed to think social conservatives will continue to stay loyal as they appeal to the moderates and independents to pull them under the tent, but my cousin and I both disagree. There is only so much social conservatives will take before they split off and form a new conservative party or join a more conservative party like the Constitution Party.


37 posted on 09/30/2007 5:06:29 AM PDT by Pinkbell (Duncan Hunter 2008 - Protecting and Restoring America)
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To: Pinkbell
My cousin remarked that the social conservatives are the strong base that faithfully gets out there and works for the candidate, and a lot of them are getting frustrated about the drift from social conservative values. She said one of the candidates they won’t get behind is Guiliani. He seemed to disagree, and he proceeded to talk about how social conservatives love Guiliani (not this one) who he said will move further to the right. Basically, it didn’t feel like she got anywhere.

Your cousin isn't wrong, exactly, but the social conservatives don't understand that they cannot elect (look, they can't even nominate a Republican candidate, for heaven's sake) on their own.

What they will do to go into coalition with non-socon Republicans is unclear, has always been unclear, and represents the downfall of Roveism.

47 posted on 09/30/2007 5:14:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: Pinkbell
He said they have to get moderates and independents to vote, and the social conservatives will vote for the GOP because usually their candidates are socially conservative.

This "social Conservative/fiscally liberal garbage is a joke. It's another term for those who are trying to appease everyone and in doing so sacrifice their principles. Boehner's response is the very reason why the GOP is losing its base. When you try to please everyone you end up pleasing no one.
56 posted on 09/30/2007 5:33:04 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Pinkbell

Talking to so-called Republican ‘leadership’ is like talking to a brick wall. They’re not interested in what grass-root conservatives have to say. They’ve got an agenda, and it evidently has little to do with life, liberty and the sanctity of private property.

Sad.


122 posted on 09/30/2007 7:25:00 AM PDT by Noumenon (Radical Islam will kill you. "Moderate" Islam will just stand by and let it happen.)
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To: Pinkbell
Sounds to me like Boehner is taking the social conservatives for granted in much the same way as the Dems take the black voters for granted.

If he thinks social conservs will "go along" with Rudy based on security alone, he's sadly mistaken.

214 posted on 09/30/2007 6:50:14 PM PDT by moondoggie
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