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MORE ASKING IF RUDY HAS RIGHT STUFF
The New York Post ^ | September 28, 2007 | Charles Hurt

Posted on 09/28/2007 6:37:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

With Fred Thompson nipping at his heels in national polls, Rudy Giuliani is starting to wear out his welcome among the Republican Party's core conservative base.

The latest popped thread came in a stern letter this week from Pat Toomey, president of the staunchly anti-tax group Club for Growth.

Toomey said his key conservative members were "surprised and concerned" about reports that Giuliani wouldn't flatly rule out raising taxes to salvage a Social Security program headed for bankruptcy.

If true, he added, it "casts doubt on your commitment to opposing all tax increases."

The Giuliani camp quickly hustled out its biggest supply-side supporter. In a letter, Steve Forbes told Toomey that Giuliani is "opposed to tax increases," even if he didn't make any specific pledge.

This dustup alone won't cost Giuliani the support of anti-taxers, but it certainly poured cold water on the group's highly enthusiastic appraisal of him earlier this year. And it comes amid other strains in the relationship between Rudy and the Right.

Last week, Giuliani rekindled long-dormant conservative worries when he answered a cellphone call from his wife in the middle of an important speech to the National Rifle Association, which is already highly suspicious of Giuliani's old gun-grabbing ways.

A Fox News poll out yesterday reveals just how damaging it was.

It shows 80 percent of voters, including 84 percent of Republicans, say Giuliani should have ignored the call. That's up there with the percentage of Americans opposed to terrorism.

And as rude as Rudy's phone manners may have been, he committed a far worse sin at the moment he answered the call.

As the phone rang, Giuliani was giving a stirring defense of the Second Amendment, which he tried to quote.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2008; banglist; clubforgrowth; electionpresident; elections; fredthompson; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; gop; nra; republicans; rinorudy; rtkba; rudygiuliani
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Rudy is Hillary in drag.
1 posted on 09/28/2007 6:38:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Asking? LOL


2 posted on 09/28/2007 6:38:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: cripplecreek

It is kind of funny.


3 posted on 09/28/2007 6:40:20 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If toomey was supporting Rudy in any way, he is a moron. He is more liberal than Arlen Specter.


4 posted on 09/28/2007 6:40:26 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I still can’t figure out how Rudy can be in first place. Are people just assuming that he is a conservative? If only they took the initiative to check out his record.
5 posted on 09/28/2007 6:42:05 PM PDT by JRochelle ( Soros is evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rudy Giuliani is starting to wear out his welcome among the Republican Party's core conservative base

What ever gave them that idea?

6 posted on 09/28/2007 6:42:29 PM PDT by chaos_5 (... I'm just another angry white male ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ANSWER is NO, Rudy.


7 posted on 09/28/2007 6:42:30 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rudy has the right stuff...to be a DemocRAT!
8 posted on 09/28/2007 6:43:49 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Democrats spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

If he wants my support he should run for mayor of Detroit. Then I’ll throw him some money.


9 posted on 09/28/2007 6:44:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hmmm....I’m remembering how Joe Lieberman won his seat in the senate?


10 posted on 09/28/2007 6:45:03 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rudy may not be the most conservative, but social conservatives don’t enable Hillary either.


11 posted on 09/28/2007 6:45:17 PM PDT by Perdogg (Join the NCAA basketball thread - Freemail me)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“And as rude as Rudy’s phone manners may have been, he committed a far worse sin at the moment he answered the call.

As the phone rang, Giuliani was giving a stirring defense of the Second Amendment, which he tried to quote.

Only, instead of reciting the founding motto of the conservative gun group, he reached for the words of the Fourth Amendment protecting Americans from illegal searches.

Far from the NRA’s mantra, that would be the guiding principle of the group’s liberal arch-nemesis, the American Civil Liberties Union.”

I’d say this NYPost writer has been reading FReeRepublic.

It was a freeper that first caught that. I just can’t remember who to ping them?


12 posted on 09/28/2007 6:46:24 PM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MORE ASKING IF RUDY HAS RIGHT STUFF
13 posted on 09/28/2007 6:47:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Don't taze me, Bro!)
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To: cripplecreek

He might do some good there. I don’t see how he could make it worse.


14 posted on 09/28/2007 6:48:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Club for Growth is the only organization who can scrape up enough $ to allow a challenger to put up a fight against some of the Republican party’s worst old fossil RINOs. By backing Giuliani, they’re going to go down the tubes with him, wasting a lot of their future credibility and crippling their ability to raise funds for future campaigns.


15 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:00 PM PDT by penowa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rooty has 2 ex wives, 1 new one, kids that don’t like him. he is a naral favorite, a nambla marcher, a gun grabber, a create your own Constitution kind of guy.

Gee, none of that seems like the right stuff to me.


16 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:02 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet

Rudy has the right stuff to be a Democrat.

Rudy is against the 2nd amendment, is pro-abortion, including partial birth infanticide, pro-illegal immigration and pro-special rights for gays.


17 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:18 PM PDT by Sun (Duncan Hunter: pro-God/life/borders, understands Red China threat, NRA A+rating! www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Beagle8U
Now Romney is downplaying the chances of him winning both Iowa and NH.
I thought that was his whole game plan but he must see the writing on the wall. Knows it won’t happen so he has to dampen expectations.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2844734020070928

Conservatives are saying no to RINOs.

18 posted on 09/28/2007 6:52:19 PM PDT by JRochelle ( Soros is evil.)
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To: prairiebreeze

bump for AM read


19 posted on 09/28/2007 6:53:05 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (PUT AMERICA AHEAD! VOTE FOR FRED!!)
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To: JRochelle
"I still can’t figure out how Rudy can be in first place."

Easy... Divide the conservative vote in the Republican party by 8 (soon to be 9 if enough people scrape up enough $ to put Newt in the race.) Liberal Republicans (20 - 25% of the party) = l crummy candidate, Rudy. IF the lazy Country Club Republicans show up to vote in the primary, Rudy will be the nominee.

20 posted on 09/28/2007 6:57:37 PM PDT by penowa
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