Posted on 09/24/2007 8:03:05 AM PDT by Invisigoth
“Namely, the Democrats’ proposal more than doubles the cost by expanding
eligibility to not just poor families, but to families making $82,000
a year. “
Obscene.
And my understanding is that program is so freakin’ expensive because
SOME states extended this coverage not just to CHILDREN in poor families...
but gave it to ADULTS as well...totally against the mandate of the program.
As messed up as we are here in Missouri, my understanding is that
we are one state that didn’t give coverage to adults under SCHIP.
But instead pander to an obviously idiot public who believes if the rich sell their mansions, that one will suddenly be able to demand their neighbors or their employer pay for ones health insurance?
I didn't cite any "textbook stuff about Capitalism and Socialism." I don't run the corporations, the stockholders do. Therefore, I don't have to defend the payouts. It is a red herring. If the corporations and the stockholders don't decide on the payouts, who does? The federal government?
“I don’t run the corporations, the stockholders do”
If you really believe that, you have never been to a major corporation’s stockholder meeting.
They are not Town Hall operations. The CEOs and Directors have pretty well wired the bylaws to guarantee any insurrection will be smashed down.
How do you think clowns with failing records (Home Depot, General Motors, Enron) get those fabulous payouts - by a direct vote of the stockholders?
If you believe that stockholders have control of the corporations, propose at the next meeting that all compensation decisions be subject to a direct vote of the stockholders - see how far you get with that.
LOL. So the stockholders are powerless? Please. If the company starts losing money or sales, they will lose stockholders and go out of business. You make it sound like the CEOs and Directors are conspiring against the company. Why and how are CEOs and Directors fired?
If you believe that stockholders have control of the corporations, propose at the next meeting that all compensation decisions be subject to a direct vote of the stockholders - see how far you get with that.
If I could get a sufficient number of stockholders to go along with me, I could. How do you think hostile takeovers come about?
Republicans act like well mannered children at times, which means to be seen and not heard.
IMO that is their biggest weakness.
bttt
FMCDH(BITS)
Got your ping & I’m here, Gorgeous! ;^)
I wonder what they’ll do when these extra taxes they’re proposing to dump on our (smokers) doorstep doesn’t cover the cost of their little socialist programs?
Will these people ever learn?
I wonder too. They are looking a gift horse in the mouth and should be happy for all the taxes they do get!
I roll my own and Gabz told me yesterday that they are going to raise loose tobacco up to $10 dollars a pound.
I haven't heard anything yet, but I am livid!
“Who do you think makes all this money? What about the lawyers and malpractice insurance costs? What about the costs of technology and medical research? What about the non-insured and illegal immigrants? What about Medicare/Medicaid fraud? Do you know what it costs to become a doctor?”
I agree with you on those points, but if you claim these factors are making it very hard for you to make a decent profit, then start looking like it. If I told you that I am very tight financially, and times are very tough, please give me some money, and then get into my new BMW (and I own five of them) and drive home to my gated MacMasion. Kinda of tough to sell. By the way most Medicare/Medicaid fraud is committed by patient with doctor’s help.
Who is the "I" in this case?
Thank you, thank you oldbill. My leadership approach was shaped by the military service and study of great military leaders. The first thing you learn as a 2LT is that one may have the rank, but you must earn the respect of the men you lead. You do that by leading by example. Many civilians do not know that officers eat last in the chow line. Officers may sit in separate tables then the men to avoid the issue of fraternization, but they eat the same food as the men. You sleep in the field with the troops, share their discomforts, risks and etc. The consequences is the men will follow you into hell and back because the officer may be their leader, have certain privelages and more pay, but he is one of them in many ways. I do not see this in the free market proponents. They see the world from an individualistic viewpoint only. Maximum personal profit that is legally permissible and the market can bear, is their motto. Sadly they do are not able to see that this approach is providing ammunition to their opposition to win public opinion. The other dangerous axiom is make fast money before it becomes a problem, and hopefully I made my clean get away before the whole scheme collapses (i.e dot.com bubble, housing bubble, and now subprime bubble). We see this attitude in politicians when it comes to government finances, and we see this attitude in elderly when it comes to Social Security and Medicare. They all know what they are doing in the long run will collapse, but they figure that they would be long gone when it does happen and leave it to the future generation to clean it up. And if the future generation can not and end up suffering from it, they simply don’t care because they got what they want out of it.
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