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6-Year-Old Autistic Student Criminally Charged After Alleged Assault
WCPO.com ^ | September 23, 2007 | Lance Barry

Posted on 09/23/2007 7:43:27 PM PDT by Graybeard58

A six-year-old autistic boy has been charged criminally after an incident inside his school where he allegedly assaulted a teacher's aide.

It's a story you saw first on 9News.

The incident happened earlier this month at Taylor Elementary School in Brooksville, Ky., located in Bracken County.

He is in kindergarten at Taylor Elementary, but 9News was told that due to his autism and other conditions, his mental capacity is the equivalent to a child half his age.

But despite that condition and his age, it still hasn't stopped a school employee there from holding him accountable: criminally.

Whether it's playing outside with his parents, or coloring SpongeBob Squarepants pictures, Nathan Darnell isn't much different than other kids his age.

But two things that do make him different from many other six-year-olds is his autism – and his criminal rap sheet.

"We are not denying that he did what they are saying, but we are denying he is culpable," said Tony Darnell, Nathan's father.

It was just last week when Nathan's teacher's aide, Glenda Schiltz, filed a juvenile fourth degree misdemeanor assault charge against him.

"What human being with a heart would do that to a six-year old?, asked Cathy Darnell, Nathan's mother. "Seriously, who would do that? I know I wouldn't."

According to the affidavit which 9News obtained, Schiltz alleges that on September 5, Nathan grabbed her by the shirt, pulled her backwards and began punching and kicking her.

"He admits to shoving her down, but he says he didn't pull her backwards," said Tony Darnell.

"She is no small person, she can defend herself," said Cathy Darnell.

So what does the school have to say about the matter?

Superintendent of Bracken County Schools Tony Johnson would not appear on camera but did say in a statement, "I believe we followed proper procedures and I have full faith in my staff".

Despite being autistic, Nathan is integrated with all kindergartners at Taylor Elementary.

His parents believe Schiltz and other teachers there are ill-prepared to handle special needs students.

His mother openly questions Schiltz's credentials.

"[She believes] you need to take him behind the woodshed and teach him something," Cathy Darnell, said. "That is her mentality, beat it out of him."

"Most of the time it [Nathan's behavior] is whining and screaming. I am sure that is hard on teachers and stuff, but we find a way to deal with it," said Tony Darnell.

On Wednesday the family went to the county courthouse, where an inquiry was held and it was decided the criminal case against Nathan will indeed move forward.

It's likely then that Schiltz will have to be there.

But until they get a chance to tell her personally, Nathan's family, in the meantime, does have something they want to say to her.

"She is a cold-hearted woman, that she has made every teacher look bad," said Cathy Darnell.

Repeated attempts to contact Glenda Schiltz were unsuccessful.

9News also was in communication with several school board members and none wanted to comment on the matter.

This is all heading to a proceeding scheduled for next week in which six-year-old Nathan will appear in juvenile court as a defendant.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: assault; autism; criminal; dangerous; education; glendaschiltz; publicschools; schools; specialkids; specialneeds; specialparents; teacher; teachers; theydonowrong; violent; wearespecial
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To: Aingeal

Not sure if this update has been posted. Glad to see the criminal charges have been dropped!

“As for our plans we plan to seek the best possible outcome for our son’s future,” Cathy Darnell wrote in an e-mail to WCPO-TV on behalf of her son, Nathan.

“Sadly, that probably means by civil action,” Darnell said in her e-mail. “We understand that may bring a more political aspect to the matter.”

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=81ee2ce5-9fd6-46a6-b18f-882f29ace8ed:


721 posted on 10/04/2007 5:35:13 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: TheBattman

Did you consider for a second some parents may actually be getting their own money they put in back to care for their child? I know I paid in an awful lot before my kids hit the school room doors and I’ll pay even more when they leave. We also got hit with penalty this and that as we depleted our retirement accounts caring for our child. Not to mention extended family without children who pay into this system and don’t begrudge their share going for their relative. This isn’t about money, but your assertion that seems to imply that special needs kids suck the system dry is absurd. There ar ea lot of people who are reaping much more directly what they have paid in. Perhaps you should work to see that you see more direct results of your tax dollars instead of begrudging me mine. IN the end, I’d trade all that money paid in and cut it out to the rest of you from it all to have my son be able to enjoy life as a typical person. I think that gets missed here. Nobody got an autistic child because they laid about or were unmotivated. To treat that group like one would treat a welfare queen who can’t pry herself away from Dr. Phil long enough to make breakfast for her kids is just insulting.


722 posted on 10/04/2007 6:16:47 AM PDT by Aingeal
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To: Aingeal
I’d trade all that money paid in and cut it out to the rest of you from it all to have my son be able to enjoy life as a typical person.

Therein lies the rub. Most people who benefit directly from government programs (or court rulings) tend to feel the same way.

Schools are funded a set amount, usually based on a per-pupil basis. At the same time, the legislatures and the courts continue to add to the responsibilities of these schools, often with unfunded mandates. So, if a school's total funding is say $8K per student, and a specific student costs the school for physical therapy, speech therapy, an additional aid assigned to that child, etc. - the cost to care for that child in the school can rapidly climb to $50K-$100K per year. That money comes from somewhere. It comes out of the same budget that pays to hire teachers, to repair facilities, to buy textbooks, to purchase computers, to fund music and art programs, etc.

My contention is that the schools now are required to do far more than public schools should ever be responsible for. As a result, not only have the academic standards been screwed up, but the schools are just plain stretched thin just trying to keep up with the law.

723 posted on 10/04/2007 6:50:23 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: SALChamps03

There are certain procedures that are followed by competent personnel for physical outbursts which place the entire situation under control immediately.

I know this because I have seen them, and I have been given training in them. My son goes to a private school for autism. The 1:1 teachers who work with the older students (teens who are over 6 feet tall, 200+ lbs) can diffuse a meltdown or physical altercation immediately, effectively and with no assistance — and they are on average about 120lbs soaking wet.

I don’t need to be in this classroom to know the staff was ill suited, untrained and just incompetent with working with autistic children.


724 posted on 10/04/2007 7:21:38 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: TheBattman

Not quite, or actually — not even close. The costs to secure these individuals’s services is added to the budget. It is not taken away from the “typical” children’s budget. Special education has its own accounting within the school budget as it is subject to various levels of reimbursements from the state and federal governments.

Also note, the cost to education a special education student is roughly about $12-15K to the typically student $8-10K, so your $100,000 figure is way off.

There is usually about 1% of the student population which is severely disabled, and as such require costly out of district placements. Those placements are cost shared however with other state and federal agencies.


725 posted on 10/04/2007 7:32:28 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: bannie

Sigh.

First, it is “typical” children, as in typically developing children, or very specifically neurotypical children. Not “normal.” My child is not abnormal, he is autistic.

Second, my son has a diagnosis of Autism. This diagnosis manifests itself in attempts at social relationships, delays in the development of comprehension and expression of spoken language, engagement in stereotyped motor responses, and difficulty in attending to social and environmental cues. Taken together, these characteristics often preclude my son from making effective use of typical educational materials and curricula. This makes it necessary to develop individualized educational protocols to facilitate learning.

My son is provided an IEP team, which includes a general education teacher, a special education teacher, a BCBA, the team chair (who is usually a principal or a party who has the authority to authorize services), and a speech, occupational, and physical therapist, if he requires those services. My husband and myself are also members of his team. We meet once a year to review his progress, evaluations, and discuss his present level of performance to determine what his needs are.

Obviously, the team who is placing children into your sister’s classrooms are failing those children by not providing the necessary supports they need during the team process.

I don’t want your sister to spend all her time with one child. I want that child to have the supports they need so they can access the general curriculum. Someone dropped the ball, and you can look to the team members to determine who that party is.

To claim that mainstreaming does not work based on the experiences of children who are placed in full inclusion settings without supports, is just very flawed reasoning.


726 posted on 10/04/2007 7:45:55 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Steamburg

The crime was in the mainlining, and I’m sure the parents insisted upon it. They and the obliging PC administrators are the cold and heartless, not the teacher who has a absolute right to her physical well being.


727 posted on 10/04/2007 7:50:37 AM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Dionysius

I am not getting that from these articles at all whatsoever.

“obliging PC administrators” — BAHAHAHAHA, are you kidding me right now?


728 posted on 10/04/2007 7:56:35 AM PDT by Lovebloggers
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To: Aingeal
My son has EARNED his right to sit in that regular classroom—something many normal kids do not have to do. He is a good boy and regularly gets praised for his good behavior.

Very well put. My son has also "Earned" the right to be in class. Those on this forum that want us to stay in the "special education room" just don't understand. Autism need not be a life long disability, if you want an autistic person to learn to deal with "normal" people, earlier is better, the autistic person cannot learn that skill without contact with normal people, preferably, early, and preferably of the same age. This skill just cannot be learned without that contact, it's a good idea.
729 posted on 10/04/2007 9:06:34 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; Lovebloggers; Aingeal
I have to say that all of you have done a wonderful job posting your very personal life experiences. Many great, and very correct, points have been made and I thank you.

Many of these people who look down upon special needs children and their families have no idea what day to day life is like. The stares, whispers, or full blown effort to ignore us or our children when we are out in public is disgusting. There is no compassion anymore. Just a filthy look of contempt or snobbery because those damn "Special needs kids" suck up all of the money and are taking "Scholastic Food" from their kids mouths. Pitiful.

I wouldn't wish any of these conditions on those here are want to segregate our kids, but a little empathy, understand, and kindness go a long way.

All of our children are special but some are placed with special parents who are meant to travel a different road. One paved with God's blessing with extraordinary rewards with many uphill battles. Along the way lessons will be learned and it is our duty to pass these on to those who do no tknow the beauty of being the parent of a special needs child.

730 posted on 10/04/2007 10:14:21 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Aingeal

[It is a neurological disorder, not a mental disorder]

Where does one end and the other begin?


731 posted on 10/04/2007 10:18:52 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: Aingeal
[objectionable and totally inaccurate opinion that autism was caused by parental excess]
 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Fetal+Alcohol%22+Autism
 
It is what it is.

732 posted on 10/04/2007 10:28:57 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: TheBattman; Aingeal
Therein lies the rub. Most people who benefit directly from government programs (or court rulings) tend to feel the same way.

Schools are funded a set amount, usually based on a per-pupil basis. At the same time, the legislatures and the courts continue to add to the responsibilities of these schools, often with unfunded mandates. So, if a school's total funding is say $8K per student, and a specific student costs the school for physical therapy, speech therapy, an additional aid assigned to that child, etc. - the cost to care for that child in the school can rapidly climb to $50K-$100K per year. That money comes from somewhere. It comes out of the same budget that pays to hire teachers, to repair facilities, to buy textbooks, to purchase computers, to fund music and art programs, etc.

My contention is that the schools now are required to do far more than public schools should ever be responsible for. As a result, not only have the academic standards been screwed up, but the schools are just plain stretched thin just trying to keep up with the law.


Sir, it is my humble opinion that you could drive nails with either your heart, or your brain.

I had my normal children in a private school for normal children, and my son in a private school for autistic children which was very expensive while paying into the system that could not help my son, and now you want to call me a welfare queen because he has progressed far enough that he can finally attend a public school and get main streamed?

Please take this with all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about.

When my son is finally main streamed, I intend to move him into a private school ASAP.

You want to remove my son from school? Fine give me back my money that was taken for it's support and I will gladly find another way to get him the help he needs.

Thank you for your attention.
733 posted on 10/04/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: VxH; Aingeal
[It is a neurological disorder, not a mental disorder] Where does one end and the other begin?

When you can see it on an autopsy, or an MRI, it is not a mental disorder.
734 posted on 10/04/2007 10:41:22 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: New Perspective
I have to say that all of you have done a wonderful job posting your very personal life experiences. Many great, and very correct, points have been made and I thank you.

Thank you, for your efforts here and with your child. Keep in mind there is a reason some people have easy children, or no children at all. That is all they could handle. (No denigration intended for anyone...)
735 posted on 10/04/2007 10:45:06 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser; VxH
Keep in mind there is a reason some people have easy children, or no children at all. That is all they could handle. (No denigration intended for anyone...)

I agree, we will do the heavy lifting.

736 posted on 10/04/2007 11:21:36 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: VxH; Aingeal; New Perspective
[objectionable and totally inaccurate opinion that autism was caused by parental excess]

Google search on Fetal Alcohol Autism

It is what it is.


And you are what you are.

I'll see your link and raise you six.
Google Search on Autism and Immunizations

Google Search on Autism and Heavy metals

Google Search on Autism and food allergies

Google Search on Autism and Digestion

Google Search on Autism and Sex

Google search on Autism and Clinical depression

There are tons of cases where autism symptoms started right after immunizations, when a child has heavy metals in his system (My wife had Mercury amalgam fillings, and subsequent mercery in her system). Many autistic children have food allergies and digestion problems which rob them of essential nutrients. Why are there 10 autistic Males for every autistic Female, if it comes from parental behavior the numbers would be close together. Why are people with Eating disorders and depression on both sides of their families have much higher incidents of Autism than those who don't?

Lets have some more fun with Google as a source of unfiltered information, here is a search on Google on Autism and VxH

How about Google on Autism and pork rinds

How about Autism and the phase of the moon?

Or Autism and the Sound of Music...

You can google for anything, but that don't make it so.

Just for the record, I am a Mormon, neither I or my wife have ever done drugs, Drunk alcohol, or smoked. We are "Perfect" for many of the studies we participate in because we are not "Tainted by modern chemical behavior" - A quote from one of the researchers I work with on autism.

Your remarks are again offensive to anyone who is a parent of an autistic child, you paint us all with a brush that has been dipped in tar and the sewer. We sicken of the stench of where you are willing to go. Please stop smearing us with your own convictions and do some actual research, actually read some of the articles on Google for existence, instead of saying, hay somebody said these two words together, so it must be true. That is at best intellectual malpractice, at worst, it is calculated character assassination of those you know nothing about for the purpose of hoping you will look better by comparison. Stop it, you look bad enough now.

/Rant

Delphiuser.
737 posted on 10/04/2007 11:25:29 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
[When you can see it on an autopsy, or an MRI, it is not a mental disorder.]
 
That suggests mind / body dualism.   
 
I believe all that we are, including our mental processes, exists in the physical, physiological, domain.
 
Your brain is now different than it was prior to reading this message.    Can  you see that on an MRI?
 
Just because we can't see it, or know how to look for it, does not mean it's not there.

738 posted on 10/04/2007 11:27:28 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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To: DelphiUser
Note to self: existence <> Instance Spell check is only effective when accompanied by proofread.
739 posted on 10/04/2007 11:34:01 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser
[you paint us all]
 
Perhaps the paint is in the eye of the beholder.
 
Immunizations, Heavy Metals and Food Allergies are all environmental factors.
 
Fetal Alcohol syndrome is also caused by an environmental factor - albeit one that is largely avoidable.

740 posted on 10/04/2007 11:37:30 AM PDT by VxH (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, and Three if by Wire Transfer)
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