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Rudy Looking Dangerously Presidential ... (he makes Bill Clinton look stable)
Human Events ^ | 09/19/2007 | Doug Patton

Posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:24 AM PDT by IrishMike

Early in my career as a political speechwriter, a young but wise campaign manager explained why candidates from the same party too often tear each other to pieces in the primaries. He told me that when all the candidates of your party are shooting at the probable opponent from the other party, your frontrunner is going to get shot in the back. I thought of that analogy the other day as I read about Rudy Giuliani’s potent political attacks on Hillary Clinton.

Clinton, the frontrunner for the Democrats’ presidential nomination, stuck George Soros’ giant left foot in her mouth attempting to do the bidding of MoveOn.org. For the entire world to see, Hillary decided that a Senate committee hearing would be a good place to call a decorated war hero, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of American forces in Iraq, a liar. Parroting the same extremist nonsense that is rapidly making the folks at MoveOn the leading leftist nutters of the blogosphere, Hillary’s comments landed with a clank in most parts of America, most notably at the Giuliani for President Campaign headquarters.

The previous week, the folks running the nation’s premiere agenda-driven newspaper, The New York Times, embarrassed themselves by substantially discounting the now-infamous, full-page, MoveOn ad calling Gen. Petraeus “Gen. Betray Us.” Apparently, The Times management doesn’t realize that George Soros can afford the full rate.

Adding to their heartburn was former New York City Mayor and Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who demanded and got the same $65,000 rate for what normally would be $165,000 worth of ad space. (Can you imagine anyone ever again paying the full rate for a full-page ad after this fiasco?) Rudy used the opportunity to excoriate Hillary for her cowardly submission to the anti-war Left and asked America who they trusted more, the senator or the general.

Rather than firing back at his opponents, Rudy is focusing on his likely Democrat challenger. Instead of answering the attacks of Mitt Romney and others in his party who are running behind him in the polls, Giuliani is acting as if he is already the Republican nominee.

Let me say again that even though Giuliani is tough on crime and terrorism, I don’t like his domestic agenda at all. As a pro-life, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Second Amendment Republican, I find him far too liberal on most social issues. As my son said to me recently, “Rudy Giuliani is a just Democrat who’s willing to blow stuff up.”

I also find Giuliani’s personal life to be downright offensive. In some ways, he makes Bill Clinton look stable. At least Clinton never had Monica Lewinsky move into the White House and openly live with him like then-Mayor Giuliani did when he had his girlfriend (now his wife) move into Gracie Mansion while he was still married to the mother of his children.

Having said all that, going after Hillary Clinton is a brilliant strategy. It makes Rudy look presidential. It makes his GOP opponents look small when they attack him. And it creates its own momentum. The more Giuliani acts like the heir apparent to the Republican nomination, the more voters will become comfortable with him.

Those of us who were looking to Fred Thompson as the fiscal and social conservative who could wrestle the GOP mantle away from hizzonor are becoming increasingly alarmed by the efficiency of the Giuliani campaign. As I wrote a few months ago, just as Democrats must find a way to turn red states blue, the converse is also true, and Rudy could change the color of the map radically. Consider the electoral vote-rich states that could fall into the GOP column with Giuliani as the nominee: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and, of course, New York. That’s a strong temptation to many Republicans who simply want to win.

Giuliani is leading in most polls largely due to his record as a tough mayor who cleaned up America’s biggest, dirtiest city and because of his leadership in the aftermath of 9/11. The war against Islamist fanaticism demands an alternative to Hillary Clinton. Rudy Giuliani firmly believes he is that alternative. An alarming number of Republicans seem to agree with him.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; gop; humanevents; rudy
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

That would be fine with me.


61 posted on 09/19/2007 5:28:24 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Jim Robinson

I think that an appropriate “conservative” VP would help the ticket alot if Guiliani wins the nomination. BTW, how did Guiliani trample the constitution?


62 posted on 09/19/2007 5:31:01 AM PDT by sandbox (Name the enemy// Win the war.)
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To: sandbox

You gotta be kidding. Get outta here.


63 posted on 09/19/2007 5:31:42 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I truely believe, out of the current announced Republican candidates, Rudy is the only one that can win the White House. Conservatives like myself (not meaning all Conservatives) will hold our noses and pull the Rudy lever in order to keep Hillary out. Even Washington had to allow several hundred of his volunteers to freeze to death and desert at Valley Forge in order to recapture Philadelphia.

"When in Rome ...", Rudy had to do what NYC needed at the time. When in the White House, I think he will do what the Nation needs at the time, i.e., turning back to Conservative principals.

64 posted on 09/19/2007 5:32:18 AM PDT by moonman
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To: Hiddigeigei
As I've said before. If the children want to take their football and go home because they don’t get their dream candidate then we will deserve what we get when fatso wins and the terrorists begin the attacks in earnest. Not to mention the attacks on the economy that will also begin.

Using principle as an excuse for being terminally shortsighted is great as long as you have a death wish.

65 posted on 09/19/2007 5:32:44 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: IrishMike

The moron that wrote the article DESERVES eight year of Clinton!!


66 posted on 09/19/2007 5:32:50 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Seeking the truth

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1898821/posts?page=65#65


67 posted on 09/19/2007 5:34:01 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: longtermmemmory

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1898821/posts?page=65#65


68 posted on 09/19/2007 5:34:25 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: IrishMike
Whenever I think of whether I would support Rudy over Hitlery in a presidential election, I am reminded of Winston Churchill’s words when asked how he could possibly sign a treaty with Stalinist Russia during WW11. I believe he answered by saying that he would look with favor on a pact with the devil if it meant the defeat of Nazi Germany. In other word’s if it came down to a choice between Rudy or Hitlery - go Rudy!
69 posted on 09/19/2007 5:34:41 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1898821/posts?page=65#65


70 posted on 09/19/2007 5:35:05 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I for one will never get “behind” the gun grabbing cross dresser. However, since I am no longer allowed to be a Republican according to W and Mel Martinez I guess it doesn’t really matter.

BTW I do not think Rudy is electable. His negatives in the West are stronger than anyone is talking about and I still question how strong his support is in the South. I am all too familiar with too bad choices for President.

71 posted on 09/19/2007 5:35:21 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (in the halls of Valhalla...)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Rudy Giuliani is a just Democrat who’s willing to blow stuff up.”

Line of the day here....


72 posted on 09/19/2007 5:35:42 AM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: indylindy; calcowgirl; TommyDale; stephenjohnbanker; nicmarlo
The Rooty campaign loves to play with gullible nincompoops....... Oh man, we gotta get that on a tee shirt. LOL.

The Rudesters are engaged in religious cleansing of the Repub party....with an emphasis on throwing social conservatives off the party boat.

Religious-haters will do anything to make themeselves "feel superior."

Rudy's entire campaign operation resembles a self-help program in "Achieving Self-Esteem Through The Political System."

73 posted on 09/19/2007 5:35:52 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns, or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: IrishMike

So he pulls a few votes from the Dems and makes a lot of Republicans stay home that day. This wins? I think not!

I would stay home that day. If the Republican nominee is somebody who’s going to parade hand in hand with the Democrats, taking America down the road to ruin, he’s going to do it without my sanction.


74 posted on 09/19/2007 5:36:12 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Senator Clinton should step down!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yeah but Rudy will turn a lot of Dem’s who don’t like Hillary (but would hold their noses to vote for her) his way...especially Democrat Males!


75 posted on 09/19/2007 5:37:02 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: Eagles Talon IV

I will never be part of electing an abortionist to the White House. FR will never be used to promote Rudy. Y’all are going to have to find a new forum if you start trying.


76 posted on 09/19/2007 5:37:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Like it or not, the GOP should get behind Rudy 100% irrespective of what the wider spectrum of Conservatism thinks

Staying home or voting 3rd party punishes the leftward movement of the GOP. Electing RINOs rewards it.

If you want a second liberal party option, why don't you start your own instead of corrupting the nominally conservative one?

77 posted on 09/19/2007 5:37:46 AM PDT by Sloth (You being wrong & me being closed-minded are not mutually exclusive.)
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To: indylindy
Hillary has had no ill effects from anything Rooty has done. In fact, Rooty’s attention grabbing on the Patraeus issue took the attention off the one BIG PROBLEM the Hildabeast would like to end. The Hsu scandal.

Emphasis added.

78 posted on 09/19/2007 5:37:51 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns, or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: Oberon
I can't imagine ever voting for Rudy. I'm an issues voter...

Here's an issue: Hillary or the Republican nominee?

79 posted on 09/19/2007 5:39:17 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Now, here is an interesting thought experiment. Suppose you eschew Guilani because of his opinions that are unlikely to come up and instead elect Thompson whose solution to pressing issues is bipartisanship, won’t that be the revenge of the RINOS?


80 posted on 09/19/2007 5:39:50 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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