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Rudy Looking Dangerously Presidential ... (he makes Bill Clinton look stable)
Human Events ^ | 09/19/2007 | Doug Patton

Posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:24 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Pat yourself on the back if she’s in the White House, as you will haven really made your point.


301 posted on 09/19/2007 3:49:32 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: mimaw; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Pat yourself on the back if she’s in the White House, as you will haven really made your point.

There will be only one group to blame--those who insist on abandoning 80% of the Republican platform by voting for Rudy in the primary.

Rudy will do to the nation what Arnold is doing to California--destroying it faster than Democrats could dream of.

302 posted on 09/19/2007 4:02:06 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: indylindy

Take off your blinders and make a reality check.

Steve Forbes is a Rudy man. He is a conservative with unimpeachable credentials. I’ve put my trust in the Forbes family for 30 years.

Disclaimer...... not a rudy man


303 posted on 09/19/2007 4:27:52 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: bert

That is BS. Forbes are not conservatives, they are RINOs. You go ahead and put your faith in them. I will save mine for a conservative.

At the very least, I have no confusion over the difference between a RINO and a conservative.


304 posted on 09/19/2007 4:30:35 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: indylindy

Your real knowledge seems at best, lacking.

Steve Forbes is the real thing. He lost because he was too conservative for the RINOS


305 posted on 09/19/2007 4:32:39 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: bert
Bwahahahaha! If you back Rooty, you are lacking in knowledge. I am sure you are smart enough to know he is a gun grabbing, gay loving, nambla supporting, abortion loving, wife cheating liberal opportunist.

He has never served in the military, never conducted foreign policy, and has no clue as to the nature of the US outside of New York. I rest my case. His latest performances to get elected are disingenuous and deceitful.

306 posted on 09/19/2007 4:40:54 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: mimaw

“Or we could get a socialist who is anti-WOT, anti-military anti-capitalism, anti-American.”

Pretty much like Rudy, then.


307 posted on 09/19/2007 4:47:30 PM PDT by Infidel1571
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To: Infidel1571

You can justifiability question him on social issues but on the other issues I think your just whistling past the grave yard.


308 posted on 09/19/2007 6:47:34 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: bert
The middle is crucial to a win, like it or not.

Really? How did Ronald Reagan win two landslide elections then?

Conservatism is what wins elections for Republicans. The Democrats are the ones that have to move to the center in order to mask their liberalism.

309 posted on 09/19/2007 11:09:02 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: bert
The middle is crucial to a win, like it or not.

Really? How did Ronald Reagan win two landslide elections then?

Conservatism is what wins elections for Republicans. The Democrats are the ones that have to move to the center in order to mask their liberalism.

310 posted on 09/19/2007 11:09:13 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: DieHard the Hunter
America today is all about style over substance, and HillBilly has Fred trumped in the style department.

Hillary Clinton is one of the most unlikable and "coldest" candidates to have every run for office. So, I have no idea why you would make that comment.

But, it is almost as if you'd support Bill Clinton if he could run for another term and was willing to do so as a Republican against because he has charisma just in order to win an election for the GOP.

311 posted on 09/19/2007 11:13:57 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ol' Sparky

> But, it is almost as if you’d support Bill Clinton if he could run for another term and was willing to do so as a Republican against because he has charisma just in order to win an election for the GOP.

Let’s put “paid” to that idea, anyrate. Bill Clinton was probably the worst President America ever elected — not once, but twice. He plumbed new lows and brought a noble office into disrepute. He broke nearly all of the Ten Commandments while in office — and that takes a fair bit of effort. And for all but one of them, aided-and-abetted by his wife, who is unbelievably being contenenced by America to be your next President!

It will be a sad day when Hillary is sworn into office.

I think that makes my position quite clear, for the avoidance of any doubt.

I can only observe what is going on in America from the outside: it is a long, long swim thru shark-infested waters across the blue South Pacific Ocean to get from here (Auckland) to America (Hawaii) — and even then, it is a still longer swim to the mainland. Maybe you guys have deep insights into “Fred” that we just don’t get down here — dunno. Could be.

From what I can see from the outside, the GOP is going to struggle to find a credible candidate to oppose Hillary — because it will be Hillary, not Obama.

Rudy Giuliani is the closest thing to a credible candidate that the GOP has — at least so far as it is observable from the outside. This is indeed a worry, for all the good reasons others have cited earlier.

As observed from the outside, “Fred” does not feature on the radar screen. Perhaps he should!

ANYRATE I hope that clears up any misunderstandings of my viewpoint on things. I wish Ollie North or Gen Hal Moore were running — but they aren’t, sadly enough.

Kia Kaha
*DieHard*


312 posted on 09/20/2007 1:04:12 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: CaptainK
Why wouldn’t they like this article? If anything it would please them that a Fred fan doesn’t think it’s a slam dunk.

..........................................................

This thread got a lot of people all kinds of fired up, and for the life of me I cannot figure why !
I was thinking along your line of thought, I’m also a Fred fan, the only candidate I’ve contributed to.
From Fred's camp I would like to see a lot more action, a lot more.

313 posted on 09/20/2007 3:19:05 AM PDT by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: IrishMike

> This thread got a lot of people all kinds of fired up, and for the life of me I cannot figure why !

If I had to guess, Mike, I’d say that it is because people on this particular thread CARE. And that you have touched a raw nerve with this thread, like cold ice-cream on a brand-new filling. And you have made people take principled stands because the call cannot be ignored.

Well done!

Your thread is doing what it is supposed to do, and very well indeed. Kudos.

*DieHard*


314 posted on 09/20/2007 3:56:05 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

Thanks.


315 posted on 09/20/2007 4:02:23 AM PDT by IrishMike (Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it)
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To: calcowgirl

That’s it.


316 posted on 09/20/2007 4:48:00 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

By calling me a child you are exhibiting the typical liberal trait of transference.


317 posted on 09/20/2007 4:51:55 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Ol' Sparky
Your point is well taken (midterms) although it could have as easily been made without referring to me as dumb. Name calling is a liberal trait and is something one who calls him/herself conservative should avoid.
318 posted on 09/20/2007 4:54:06 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: longtermmemmory
What you say makes some sense although I’m unsure of how important it is in this case because Rudy’s past is certainly no secret. BTW, thank you for your reasonable response. It is nice to have someone disagree with me without calling me a fool, dumb or worse.
319 posted on 09/20/2007 4:57:27 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Ol' Sparky
Are you stating someone espousing Reaganism can't be elected?

The electorate that voted for Ronald Reagan - and the principles he espoused - simply no longer exists within our borders.

We have changed THAT MUCH since 1980....

- John

320 posted on 09/20/2007 5:47:20 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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