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Rudy Looking Dangerously Presidential ... (he makes Bill Clinton look stable)
Human Events ^ | 09/19/2007 | Doug Patton

Posted on 09/19/2007 4:26:24 AM PDT by IrishMike

Early in my career as a political speechwriter, a young but wise campaign manager explained why candidates from the same party too often tear each other to pieces in the primaries. He told me that when all the candidates of your party are shooting at the probable opponent from the other party, your frontrunner is going to get shot in the back. I thought of that analogy the other day as I read about Rudy Giuliani’s potent political attacks on Hillary Clinton.

Clinton, the frontrunner for the Democrats’ presidential nomination, stuck George Soros’ giant left foot in her mouth attempting to do the bidding of MoveOn.org. For the entire world to see, Hillary decided that a Senate committee hearing would be a good place to call a decorated war hero, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of American forces in Iraq, a liar. Parroting the same extremist nonsense that is rapidly making the folks at MoveOn the leading leftist nutters of the blogosphere, Hillary’s comments landed with a clank in most parts of America, most notably at the Giuliani for President Campaign headquarters.

The previous week, the folks running the nation’s premiere agenda-driven newspaper, The New York Times, embarrassed themselves by substantially discounting the now-infamous, full-page, MoveOn ad calling Gen. Petraeus “Gen. Betray Us.” Apparently, The Times management doesn’t realize that George Soros can afford the full rate.

Adding to their heartburn was former New York City Mayor and Republican presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who demanded and got the same $65,000 rate for what normally would be $165,000 worth of ad space. (Can you imagine anyone ever again paying the full rate for a full-page ad after this fiasco?) Rudy used the opportunity to excoriate Hillary for her cowardly submission to the anti-war Left and asked America who they trusted more, the senator or the general.

Rather than firing back at his opponents, Rudy is focusing on his likely Democrat challenger. Instead of answering the attacks of Mitt Romney and others in his party who are running behind him in the polls, Giuliani is acting as if he is already the Republican nominee.

Let me say again that even though Giuliani is tough on crime and terrorism, I don’t like his domestic agenda at all. As a pro-life, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-Second Amendment Republican, I find him far too liberal on most social issues. As my son said to me recently, “Rudy Giuliani is a just Democrat who’s willing to blow stuff up.”

I also find Giuliani’s personal life to be downright offensive. In some ways, he makes Bill Clinton look stable. At least Clinton never had Monica Lewinsky move into the White House and openly live with him like then-Mayor Giuliani did when he had his girlfriend (now his wife) move into Gracie Mansion while he was still married to the mother of his children.

Having said all that, going after Hillary Clinton is a brilliant strategy. It makes Rudy look presidential. It makes his GOP opponents look small when they attack him. And it creates its own momentum. The more Giuliani acts like the heir apparent to the Republican nomination, the more voters will become comfortable with him.

Those of us who were looking to Fred Thompson as the fiscal and social conservative who could wrestle the GOP mantle away from hizzonor are becoming increasingly alarmed by the efficiency of the Giuliani campaign. As I wrote a few months ago, just as Democrats must find a way to turn red states blue, the converse is also true, and Rudy could change the color of the map radically. Consider the electoral vote-rich states that could fall into the GOP column with Giuliani as the nominee: California, Pennsylvania, New Jersey and, of course, New York. That’s a strong temptation to many Republicans who simply want to win.

Giuliani is leading in most polls largely due to his record as a tough mayor who cleaned up America’s biggest, dirtiest city and because of his leadership in the aftermath of 9/11. The war against Islamist fanaticism demands an alternative to Hillary Clinton. Rudy Giuliani firmly believes he is that alternative. An alarming number of Republicans seem to agree with him.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; democrats; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; gop; humanevents; rudy
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, my conviction is that keeping the Clintons out of the WH and the democrat party from taking over is more important than anything else. This is a national security issue with the GWOT. I don’t run you down for your views, do I? This view does not mean I surrender my conservative credentials.


181 posted on 09/19/2007 7:24:38 AM PDT by astounded (Democrats in Congress = A Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: Jim Robinson
Cowardly my ass! What the hell gives YOU the right to say that I should die because of YOUR principles? Geez, you sound like someone straight off the KOS or DU website.

One more thing. Quit the name calling or I’ll you thrown off the site

182 posted on 09/19/2007 7:24:44 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: IrishMike

IF you like Guiliani, then vote Democrat. That is what Guiliani is or should have been.


183 posted on 09/19/2007 7:25:03 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: Eagles Talon IV; Jim Robinson

Just like EVERY OTHER LIBERAL, you don’t get your way so you throw a temper tantrum.

You are pathetic and so is your candidate.


184 posted on 09/19/2007 7:26:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Well, I’ve had enough of this mealy-mouthed weak-kneed wimpy whining RINO crap for one day. I’m going to bed. Hopefully, they’ll be gone by tomorrow.


185 posted on 09/19/2007 7:26:22 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Good night (morning, whatever it is)! BTW according to #182, some lefty wants to ban YOU from your own website!


186 posted on 09/19/2007 7:27:57 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Cowardly my ass! What the hell gives YOU the right to say that I should die because of YOUR principles? Geez, you sound like someone straight off the KOS or DU website. One more thing. Quit the name calling or I’ll you thrown off the site

*************

You're an ungrateful clod.

187 posted on 09/19/2007 7:28:40 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee
Yeah, lacking in common sense. You seem to KNOW he quit in 2000 not because he had cancer but because he couldn't win and you seem to KNOW he didn't run for her seat in 2006 because he couldn't win. You say all this in a thread about RG RUNNING against fatso now.

If, according to you he KNEW he couldn't win then then why is he running now? Like I said, no common sense.

BTY, did you ping JR so he could come to the rescue and help you argue with me?

188 posted on 09/19/2007 7:31:20 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: O6ret
Here's an issue: Hillary or the Republican nominee?

If the Republican nominee is Giuliani, we've already lost. I stay home and clean my rifles.

189 posted on 09/19/2007 7:31:23 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: wagglebee

You can stand by when someone calls you a coward then that speaks loudly and not well for you. This not about me getting my way at all but defending my right to an opinion and in this case my honor. Apparently you are not aware of the insult it is to call a man a coward.


190 posted on 09/19/2007 7:34:03 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: trisham

Ungrateful? What ARE you talking about?


191 posted on 09/19/2007 7:34:43 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: Oberon
If the Republican nominee is Giuliani, we've already lost. I stay home and clean my rifles.

We're going to need them.

BLOAT.

5.56mm

192 posted on 09/19/2007 7:36:28 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Eagles Talon IV
When your standing on a principle that costs ME my life, that is unacceptable.

That's one of the more ridiculous comments I have ever seen on here. Yep, no hypberbole there at all!! /s

It's ludicruous to think that we NEED a LIBERAL like JulieAnnie to save us all! Absolutely ridiculous.

When look at the layers of defense that President Bush has put in place--it is impressive, impressive indeed (regardless of who is President). Here's a few:

(1) The incredible growth in government surveillance activities from the Patriot Act,
(2) The growth in government surveillance in ECHELON,
(3) The growth in government surveillance in CARNIVORE,
(4) Redeployment of FBI personnel from illegal drugs to national security,
(5) The removal of the Gorelick Wall (thanks, again Slick—Rudy, are you listening?--since Rudy defended Slick on this one),
(6) The new gigantic government bureaucracy, with tens of thousands of new government employees, the TSA,
(7) With its huge, bigger, parent version—the new Washington, DC, bureaucracy (aka the Homeland Security Dept),
(8) The blank check now given to our intelligence agencies, and,
(9) The greatly increased coordination/info sharing between our intelligence agencies and the foreign intel agencies of our allies and friends,
(10) Belated arming of our aircrews (no thanks to liberals like Rudy),
(11) Increased presence of federal air marshals,
(12) The new, first-ever Director of National Intelligence,
(13) Stepped-up, updated and more thorough background checks on all employees in sensitive positions (govt and private industry), and
(14) Who knows what else—as this is all that quickly comes to mind--I’m sure there’s lots more that we aren’t even aware of,,,

but the bottom line is this. President Bush has put up a gauntlet that future Presidents can ride on for a LONG TIME.

It's ridiculous that we have to compromise our conservatives values and principles because ONLY a liberal Republican like Rudy can save us. Once again, absolutely ridiculous.

193 posted on 09/19/2007 7:37:03 AM PDT by stockstrader (We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the base, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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To: Eagles Talon IV; Jim Robinson
BTY, did you ping JR so he could come to the rescue and help you argue with me?

No DUmmie, if you read back through the thread, Jim was on to you before I made my first post here.

194 posted on 09/19/2007 7:37:21 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“”Rudy is electable.

Unless this happens, get used to a HillBilly White House, for eight years. “”

I second that.


195 posted on 09/19/2007 7:37:26 AM PDT by 2dogjoe (Have a Blessed Day)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

After that ridiculous statement, I wouldn’t do anything you would ask.

It is your problem if you think that the only way to win is to give up your principles for a person that is everything you abhor.

What amazes me the most is how you people seem to have so much faith in Hillary, that you will slide to her side to beat her.


196 posted on 09/19/2007 7:37:35 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: wagglebee

LOL, sure but you just had to ping him on your reply to MY post...right?

Well, don’t be afraid, I’ll go easy on you.


197 posted on 09/19/2007 7:39:26 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: indylindy; Eagles Talon IV
It is your problem if you think that the only way to win is to give up your principles for a person that is everything you abhor.

You're missing a crucial point here. The FRiberals DON'T abhor liberalism. As best I can tell, the only thing they truly abhor is the Klintoons; which means that once Hitlery is defeated next year and the Klintoons go back to the trailer park, the FRiberals can happily rejoin their fellow 'Rats.

198 posted on 09/19/2007 7:42:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

You’re a guest here. Behaving so rudely is despicable.


199 posted on 09/19/2007 7:43:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

I pinged Jim in response to something you said to him.


200 posted on 09/19/2007 7:43:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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