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The (now) three star involved in this....is not highly thought of by many in the SOF/SF community -

These men will walk (as they should) but not before being dragged through a little hell...and the MSM can put out more negative BS spin...

1 posted on 09/18/2007 8:12:42 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: DevSix

Not this shiite again....Doesn’t the leadership have any idea how divisive, demoralizing and counterproductive their PC witch hunts are becoming??

see MilitaryCorruption.Com for the latest on these stupid cases.


2 posted on 09/18/2007 8:17:02 PM PDT by Wills Powers
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To: DevSix; Girlene

If you follow this case, Dev, keep us posted, would you please?


3 posted on 09/18/2007 8:17:19 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: DevSix

Damn the pansy asses who prosecute these men!!


4 posted on 09/18/2007 8:21:34 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: DevSix
"...recoil...I felt recoil..."
5 posted on 09/18/2007 8:23:30 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: DevSix

Uh boy...

It’s B57/Nha Trang in 1969 all over again. I guess the Left wants to follow the Vietnam playbook to the letter.


6 posted on 09/18/2007 8:24:24 PM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: DevSix

WTF?


7 posted on 09/18/2007 8:28:00 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: DevSix
These men will walk (as they should) but not before being dragged through a little hell...and the MSM can put out more negative BS spin...

Just what our troops need, *eyeroll*. More 'help' from the MSM, creating more havoc and seeming to delight in it. Disregarding the real harm they cause.

8 posted on 09/18/2007 8:28:37 PM PDT by fortunecookie (Finally catching up with posting...)
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To: DevSix

The people put on trial should be the twits who are trying to prosecute our heroes for doing their freaking job. We can’t fight a war if our soldiers are constantly afraid of being accused of murder. It only means that more of our young men are going to get killed and and our objectives in battle will be slowed. Thanks liberals for screwing up our country and making us more unsafe.


9 posted on 09/18/2007 8:29:01 PM PDT by garjog (Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
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To: DevSix

If this is how we are going to fight wars we should pull out of Ashcanistan and Iraq RIGHT NOW. If all we are going to do is conduct a non-stop series of trials, hearings and prosecutrions then lets just stop, pull back and get busy surrendering.

This is beyond ridiculous. I am just sick of it.

But I’m sure El Presidente Jorge Bush will jump in to help these guys.... </sarc>


11 posted on 09/18/2007 8:41:43 PM PDT by navyguy (Some days you are the pigeon, some days you are the statue.)
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To: DevSix

This is insane.

Political correctness has been used against us for so long that it has become too readily acceptable.


12 posted on 09/18/2007 8:44:35 PM PDT by airborne (Proud to be a conservative! Proud to support Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: DevSix
This one really bothers me.....

The KNOWN and IDENTIFIED “ILLEGAL COMBATANT” had been designated as a target and placed on the whack list....
Illegal Combatants have no special entitlement to achieve prisoner status...
The targets are placed on the whack list to be killed if possible.
There was no order to take the target captive...
The target was properly I.D’d as the man on the whack list...
The shooter was authorized to shoot..
The targeted individual was killed..
The shooting was reported and found to be an authorized and justified shoot.

I have no idea of why the fact the target was unarmed, and in a nonthreatening conversation with the “finger man” was even mentioned..

Shooters are NOT required to notify their designated target they are about to be shot - and should either arm themselves or take evasive action...

WTF is this Lt.General up to?

17 posted on 09/18/2007 9:56:37 PM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: DevSix

This second guessing shit will be the ruin of our military if it continues. I can picture Nostril Waxman preparing hearings, geez


18 posted on 09/18/2007 10:00:03 PM PDT by Octar
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To: DevSix
WTH?

Frank H. Kearney

General Kearney proceeded with murder charges against the two soldiers even after an investigation by the Army’s Criminal Investigation Command concluded in April that the shooting had been “justifiable homicide.”

What is this guy's motivation?

21 posted on 09/19/2007 12:19:55 AM PDT by csvset
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To: DevSix

OReilly is talking about this right now


26 posted on 09/19/2007 5:18:24 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: DevSix

I thought we sent these guys over there to kill people.


29 posted on 09/19/2007 5:37:55 PM PDT by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: DevSix; All
In June, Captain Staffel and Sergeant Anderson were charged with premeditated murder.

Wait a minute. Premeditated murder? Soldiers and Marines have been charged with murder for violating the ROE and killing civilians. Most have been acquitted based on a 'heat of battle' argument, or just a lack of evidence.

In this case, 'premeditated' means they planned to kill him at a time and place of their choosing--which is legal. However, they violated ROE and comitted 'murder' because he was unarmed?

While they could premeditate his killing legally, how could they know beforehand that he wouldn't be armed so they could violate the ROE and 'murder' him?

On the battlefield, with the ROE in place, if it is premeditated, it's not 'murder'. If it is 'murder', it is not 'premeditated'.

How are they going to prove that not only did they plan to kill him legally, but illegally planned to catch him specifically unarmed so that they could 'murder' him outside of the ROE?

32 posted on 09/19/2007 7:25:45 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (Peace Through Light)
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To: DevSix

Why don’t they charge some WWII vets with killing nazi’s while they’re at it?


36 posted on 09/19/2007 8:47:23 PM PDT by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: DevSix

Saw this on O’reilly. Some jackass with a crooked bowtie really pissed me off.


38 posted on 09/19/2007 10:46:15 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: DevSix
**** The (now) three star involved in this....is not highly thought of by many in the SOF/SF community *****

Most officers (Legs) detest the SF. And the majority that do go Airborne and then put in a stint in SF due so only to polish their resume and get out asap. At least this was how it was in the 'olden days'.

Then again, Rummy sure took a lot of crap and internal sabotage from the 'Leg' apple polishers when he started to emphasize the SF and Special Ops in general so maybe that attitude is still prevalent.

39 posted on 09/20/2007 8:01:47 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: DevSix
Mark Waple, a civilian lawyer representing Captain Staffel, said the charges against his client and Sergeant Anderson carry a whiff of “military politics.”

Yes, I see where this simple scumbag Kearney just got promoted. So you know who the bigger scumbag is in this whole fiasco? The assclown's boss. The Commander-in-Chief. Bush.

49 posted on 09/29/2007 7:40:51 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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