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Pit Bulls Kill Man, Woman In Michigan
The Indy Channel ^ | September 14, 2007

Posted on 09/14/2007 5:04:52 AM PDT by Abathar

DETROIT -- An elderly man and a woman were mauled to death by pit bulls in Iosco Township, Mich., on Thursday afternoon, police said.

Michigan State Police were called to a farm and found a 90-year-old man mauled to death by dogs.

The Iosco Sheriff’s Department said the man’s 70-year-old son went to check on his father, who was visiting the property, and found him dead in the yard.

Police said there were still pit bulls in the yard when the son arrived.

Upon further investigation, MSP found dogs had also fatally mauled a 56-year-old woman who was jogging, just west of the property.

Investigators confiscated 10 pit bulls from a nearby residence.

MSP said there are still some dangerous dogs at large in the area.

The deaths are still under investigation by MSP.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bopma; breedmisidentified; breedofpeace; doggieping; dogofpeace; msmdoesitagain; pitbull; preciouspooch; rdo
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To: SIDENET

I keep looking through my post #197 for the words “pit bull,” and I can’t seem to find it.

Can you point me to where you found it?


201 posted on 09/19/2007 5:15:15 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: kanawa
Thank you for the update - I can see why the police identified them as pit bulls from sight alone. They really are beautiful dogs.
202 posted on 09/19/2007 5:33:20 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: xzins

So, what was your point?


203 posted on 09/19/2007 5:39:38 AM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: kanawa

Kia Ora, Kanawa

We are Pax, I hope, on my understanding of what a “Pit Bull” is. By my definition, you do not own a “Pit Bull” mungrel filthy stinking mutt to which I have objection.

In my opinion, your dog’s blood ought to be bottled and preserved for All Time. Your dog fights bears and protects his Master. As all Good Dogs will do.

So for the avoidance of any future doubt, let it be said: “Kanawa’s Dog is not a Filthy Stinking Mungrel Mutt Dangerous Pit Bull Terrier, he is instead a Good Dog. And so says DieHard the Hunter, trainer of Dogs.”

Pit Bulls are not pets: they are weapons. Their heritage and husbandry is unknowable. And every undesirable trait has been bred into them, deliberately.

Bloody shocking.


204 posted on 09/19/2007 5:42:27 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: kanawa

Thanks for the update and the link to a picture of the dogs in question. I won’t take as long now to identify one of these murderous beasts and take it out before it becomes a deadly threat. Better to shoot first and ask questions later when it comes to killers like this.


205 posted on 09/19/2007 5:46:45 AM PDT by tupac
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To: SIDENET

That these dogs should be considered dangerous.

And all that look like them or nearly like them.

If you’re sane, that is.

I obviously was referring to post #196, as the number at the bottom of my #197 indicates.


206 posted on 09/19/2007 5:51:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
I obviously was referring to post #196, as the number at the bottom of my #197 indicates.

Yes. This is true.

That these dogs should be considered dangerous. And all that look like them or nearly like them. If you’re sane, that is.

Okay. I'm curious. Do you believe in banning "all that look like them or nearly like them"?

207 posted on 09/19/2007 6:03:55 AM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: SIDENET

No, I believe in me being incredibly wary and willing to go on the offense at the slightest hint of anything.

Incidentally, I believe in individuals owning tanks if they got the cash, so they can own dogs.

But, I reserve the right to blow up my neighbor’s tank if he drives over my daisies. :>)


208 posted on 09/19/2007 6:07:03 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: The Ghost of Rudy McRomney
A couple of days ago a little girl in Yavapai county (AZ) was mauled by two mastiff puppies.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0917dog-attack0917-ON.html

209 posted on 09/19/2007 6:10:43 AM PDT by az_illini (Freedom is the freedom to say two + two make four. If that is granted, all else follows-G. Orwell)
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To: xzins
No, I believe in me being incredibly wary and willing to go on the offense at the slightest hint of anything.

Well, I've got no problem with being wary of strange dogs. You never know how they've been raised and socialized.

Incidentally, I believe in individuals owning tanks if they got the cash, so they can own dogs.

Now, I would like to own a tank. I wish I had that kind of cash. ;-)

BTW, thanks for your response. I'd better get to bed before the sun comes up here. (working night shifts)

210 posted on 09/19/2007 6:15:52 AM PDT by SIDENET (I don't want to find "common ground" with a bunch of damn leftists.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I know you’re from New Zealand but this might be of interest to you...
The Aussie magazine People is doing a story on Sam.
They pay the subjects of their articles...so we’re getting 500 Aussie bucks!


211 posted on 09/19/2007 6:30:54 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: SIDENET

Wow, great looking dogs. Thanks for posting the pics.


212 posted on 09/19/2007 6:50:14 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: kanawa

We have four dogs currently. We have a home large enough (4K square feet) and fenced in yard with dog wire, that its not a problem.

Ten pitbulls? You know I support the breed, and find the hysterical remarks about them offensive, and to be blunt, ignorant as hell...but ten of them?

Thats a breeder...and I don’t have to ‘guess’ what the motivation was of the owner.

Just my opinion.


213 posted on 09/19/2007 6:53:52 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: DieHard the Hunter; kanawa
Thanks for the update kanawa...again we see so-called pitbulls blamed for a crime they didn't commit.

Pit Bulls are not pets: they are weapons. Their heritage and husbandry is unknowable. And every undesirable trait has been bred into them, deliberately.

Their heritage and husbandry is knowable as even those bred for aggression come with pedigree charts. My advice: don't purchase a dog which cannot be registered with the American Kennel Club (so-called "pitbulls" cannot)...but don't lump the fine breeds of dogs (Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers and Bull Terriers) in with pitbulls.

214 posted on 09/19/2007 7:15:31 AM PDT by meandog (I'm one of the FEW and the BRAVE FReepers still supporting John McCain)
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To: Badeye
This latest article identifies them as American Bulldogs
and the dogs show no indications of being used for fighting.

Lady was probably a breeder. She may have been a responsible one...or not.
Only four of the ten dogs got loose...the other 6 may have been puppies.
There are no reports so far of previous trouble involving her dogs.
Waiting for info on how the dogs got loose...that is what led to this tragedy.

Here's a pic of her property...

Whether that fencing was being used to contain the dogs is unknown,
if so, it appears inadequate.

215 posted on 09/19/2007 7:18:27 AM PDT by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: Last Visible Dog

LOL!! One of the funniest movies ever made!!


216 posted on 09/19/2007 7:21:57 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: kanawa

‘if so, it appears inadequate’

bit understated, wouldn’t you agree, given the circumstances?


217 posted on 09/19/2007 7:40:32 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: meandog; kanawa

>...but don’t lump the fine breeds of dogs (Staffordshire Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers and Bull Terriers) in with pitbulls.

Yup. Agree. Kanawa’s dog is *not* the dog I rail against. I rail against mungrel mutts who are deliberately bred to exhibit all the undesirable traits: particularly aggression.

“Pit Bulls” in New Zealand fall into this category. Dunno what you would call a “pit bull” in America.

A flame thrower or a machine gun is the only safe way to approach such a dog. Do they have such animals in America yet, or do you still have time to protect yourselves from these animals (God let it be so!)

*DieHard*


218 posted on 09/19/2007 8:03:33 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: kanawa
"Authorities said dogs that attacked and killed two Livingston County residents have been euthanized.

Ten purebred or mixed American bulldogs have been destroyed "

They put all ten down, I don't know whether or not the owner volunteered or the state did it.

219 posted on 09/19/2007 12:25:49 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: kanawa
> Anne Burns, director of Livingston County Animal Control, said all 10 dogs - seven American bulldogs and three American bulldog mixes - are being held indefinitely as evidence. Police said the four dogs suspected in the attack are American bulldogs.

Burns said the dogs, which average 75-80 pounds, look “like a boxer on stilts” and have a face similar to a boxer - with a strong jaw and muscular body. She said none of the dogs looked like they had been used to fight, and there was no indication that dogs were involved in fights on Cockrell’s property.<

They may not have been used to fight, but they formed a pack. Years ago, a friend of mine’s 4 boxers began jumping on a young man they did not know (he had entered their chain linked paddock). At first they were simply jumping, then their behavior began to change to grabbing at the man’s shirt. At this point the owner waded in on the dogs, and they backed off. Had the owner not been there, the dogs could possibly have hurt the man. Individually, none of these dogs would have become aggressive.

The bottom line is, dogs in groups exhibit behavior a single dog will not. Pack behavior needs to be guarded against at all times, and it is vital that owners of multiple large breed dogs manage them so they do not have the opportunity to run at large.

220 posted on 09/19/2007 12:53:53 PM PDT by Darnright
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