Mass Slaughter In Our Schools: The Terrorists' Chilling Plan?

killology dot com ^ | 2007 | Remsberg

[P.O.E.]

BTTT

[red irish]

Watched that game! Man was that a good game considering I love da Bengals. But I have to admit I thought how that many people could be a target. All they had to do what put a few bombs there and the panic would do the rest. But there was also plenty of security there.

[red irish]

In other words give up anything that has to do with hollyweird. Pray and learn how to shoot or get better at it.

[red irish]

Tonight,if you can get the later show,tomorrow and the next.

[BuckeyeForever]

Understood.

[BuckeyeForever]

Regarding Iraq, you wrote: “It’s like a roach motel: Terrorists check in, but they don’t check out. Meanwhile, it greatly diminishes the pool AQ has available for strikes here.”
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My response: Your cockroach analogy is a good one, but I doubt any successes in extermination of the pests in Iraq is GREATLY diminishing the jihadist threat to us here. You may be underestimating the size of the available pool of jihadists and therefore the magnitude of our long-term problem. By most reports, there are plenty of apprentice jihadists in numerous countries around the world going to boot camp in preparation for a chance at martyrdom. The notion that it is “better to fight them over there than here” has a nice ring to it, but it doesn’t reflect the reality. We are in a permanent war that isn’t likely to end until one side or the other has been vanquished.

[pax_et_bonum]

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[Ancesthntr]

They have no concept of our size, might, and resources, or character.

It would indeed get messy. I do think we could prevail, but not without cost.

Our character has lately been to run away with our tail between our legs at the first sign of trouble. Prior to WW2, our character was to stick our heads in the ground, hoping that things would get better by magic. In both cases, the cost has been high because WE didn't show our true strength of character. In a sense, we invited attack by a display of weakness. Later we shall have to warn others to keep away for the next 30 or 40 years by utterly pulverizing our enemies in the most brutal fashion imaginable, public and world opinion be damned.

I sincerely hope that nothing like this ever occurs on our soil (or elsewhere, for that matter). I just fear that it will because of our nature and that of our enemies.

[steadfastconservative]

FYI, five of my six children went to or are currently attending Catholic school. However, one of my children is a special needs student and, therefore, is attending a public high school.

The problem I have with home schoolers is not that they choose to educate their children at home, which is a perfectly legitimate option, but rather that they criticize parents who do not home school and see themselves as being more righteous than these other parents. For too many home schoolers, home schooling is not just a choice, it is a crusade. There are many bad public schools but there are also many good public schools and it is not immoral for parents to send their children to these.

But here is something to remember: you can’t keep your children in a bubble forever. While you might wish to protect them from the evil influences of the world by educating them at home, sooner or later, they will have to go out into the real world. And in today’s post-9/11 America, any public venue is a potential target for terrorists. So while you might flippantly dismiss the terrorist threat against public schools by promoting home schooling (which you know most people aren’t going to do), you really aren’t coming up with any constructive solution to this threat.

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[metmom]

I’m thinking of the average unwashed masses.

Sure the government will run but the people will ROLL.

There are many places that I wouldn’t want to be if I looked Middle Eastern, not everywhere, but lots.

[G Larry]

Allow me to predict the consequences of such an action:
1) Extreme vigilante action here at home.
2) Mosques will be less well attended.
3) Democrats will lose power.
4) Severe action against Iran, Syria, Pakistan.
5) Severe pressure on Saudi Arabia and Egypt to arrest those funding, sympathizing, and supporting terror networks.

[G Larry]

Allow me to predict the consequences of such an action:
1) Extreme vigilante action here at home.
2) Mosques will be less well attended.
3) Democrats will lose power.
4) Severe action against Iran, Syria, Pakistan.
5) Severe pressure on Saudi Arabia and Egypt to arrest those funding, sympathizing, and supporting terror networks.

[Badeye]

Yes, yep and yes.

[Titan Magroyne]

People are doing too much emotional thinking about what the response to a Beslan X n in this country would be. Yes, there would be a surge of outrage and anger the likes of which this country has never know. But, the government would still operate in a PC-mode. I know, just know that after the police secured other schools, the first deployment of SWAT teams and National Guard would be to protect mosques and Muslim populations NO MATTER HOW MANY AMERICAN CHILDREN WERE KILLED. As there would be no particular Muslim country responsible directly, no massive retaliation of any kind would happen. And the fears that we would be cut off from our oil supplies would cause the strategic planners to not even propose that kind of thing. The government would bellow very loudly about the immorality and evil of the actions, but in the end, nothing dramatic would be done. Sad, really, but I think that is closer to a realistic projection of the events this particular act were entail.
You are correct, but to expound upon your projection, if I may: The natural response from Americans would be frustration with lack of justice from government's hallowed halls. Singly and in small groups, random Muslims and persons who appear "Muslim" will be picked off by angry citizens in need of a target. It will be an extended campaign. Even before this step begins, CAIR will have begun screeching offense at receiving sideways glances from the most non-violent of Americans, further eroding the desire of John Q. Public to give credence to their complaints.

Many low level administrative government types who live in the communities in which they work will be forced into tacit compliance with neighborhood desire to oust Islamists, while outwardly smiling at their Muslim public. (Consider community zoning laws and variances, enforcement of the peace between neighbors - that sort of thing. Situations that operate below the level of federal meddling, in other words.)

It will become a matter of big government vs. local as community enforcers ally with the people they live among and refuse to parrot It's the Religion of Peace^TM. If those same local beaurocrats prove recalcitrant to community demands, you may well see vigilance committees giving them the old tar-and-feather treatment. This harkens back to the days of the American Revolution and undoubtedly will employed against our own who betray the public's trust. A fitting treatment reserved for our abusive officials - no? and a reminder to neutral citizens that redress is possible outside the halls of justice if not inside them.

This leaves the CAIR idjits untouched and still crying wolf as it punishes traitorous American officials. LOL, not in big blue cities of course, but I can see it happening all over flyover country, and repeatedly. Naturally, the feds will be applying the screws on the other side. What I can't predict is where it goes from there. Look at how determined were our federal reps up to and including POTUS to ignore and even insult the US citizenry who said no to amnesty for illegals. For how long are *they* willing to espouse It's the Religion of Peace^TM and how far will they go in punishing American citizens who resist? Possibly to the point of assasination. That would be terrible for our country, and I hope it doesn't come to that.

Far as vigilantism against Muslims: For the sake of the cause, targets should be picked judiciously. Don't sweep up Hindus and other non-Muslims. I can't endorse random violence against innocent persons, yet I'm content with whatever makes any or all Islamists decide to shut up, pack up and leave, taking their religious and cultural ideology with them. *shrug* So I'm torn. Doesn't keep me up at night. Make of that what you will.

[ZeitgeistSurfer]

You suggest a quasi-vigillante approach as a response to a truly heinous act of mass child murder because of the anticipated feckless government response. While emotionally appealing, I humbly suggest that all that would result in is government repression - martial law, curfews, sweep arrests and even gun confiscation. The government is much more invested in maintaining order than in promoting (or even simply ignoring) rough justice.

[Titan Magroyne]

Perhaps. Your last sentence is a definite!

I have pretty much written off the foreign interlopers as unwilling to reform themselves and instead fixate on Americans in power who turn a blind eye. Those whose methods involve slaughter of innocents and suicide may only be killed before they kill us, as a rabid animal. But the gutless wonders who enable them, homegrown Americans all, wish to live and do so free of pain.

[Mr. Silverback]

Apparently, homeschoolers don’t care if other people’s children are killed in terror attacks as long as their own children are safe. How callous.

Congratulations. Despite a large number of candidates competing against you, you have far and away written the most moronic post in the history of FR.

No one has writtent anything here that indicates that we don't care about public school kids possibly dying in an attack. What has been said is that your kids are safer if you home school. As I pointed out, the home may be a harder target and certainly has fewer available victims. Those are facts.

How exactly is that callous? If I don't let my kids ride in the car without buckling up, that means I don't care if anyone else's kids die in auto accidents? If I immunize my kids I don't care if a child dies from a childhood disease? If I take them to a lifeguarded pool to swim I don't care that another kid drowns in a lake?

Give me a break. I don't know what hellish crud is in your heart that you're projecting on the rest of us right now, but you are way out of line.

[Mr. Silverback]

I favor Mr. Silverback's approach to terrorists threatening my kids.

Which is...aim for the center mass. :-)