No! You a can no make a the rules... 
if you a don't a play a the game a!
Posted on 09/08/2007 7:00:51 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
MARIAZELL, Austria (AFP) — Pope Benedict XVI blasted Europeans for being selfish and not having enough children, in a sermon on Saturday at the 850-year-old pilgrimage site of Mariazell in Austria.
"Europe has become child-poor. We want everything for ourselves and place little trust in the future," the pope told a crowd of faithful from his canopied area at an open-air mass that took place under heavy rain.
But Benedict held out hope, saying: "The earth will be deprived of a future only when the forces of the human heart and of reason illuminated by the heart are extinguished . . . Where God is, there is the future."
The pontiff had slammed abortion upon arriving in Austria Friday as the "very opposite" of human rights.
"The fundamental human right, the presupposition of every other right, is the right to life itself," he told members of the government and the diplomatic corps at the Hofburg, the seat of the Austrian presidency in Vienna.
The pope also warned at the mass Saturday that science must be used for good if man is not to be threatened with destruction.
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“There, that’s better. He doesn’t give a fig if the prorestants never have another kid! :)”
If you would take the time to read his writings you would learn how wrong you are.
That isn't what he said. Doesn't his message deserve to be evaluated on the basis of what he actually said, rather than what you think he means?
In point of fact, the Catholic objections to contraception are based in natural law, and we think it's just as wrong when Protestants (or anyone else) do it.
And, in another point of fact, Catholic Europeans and Protestant Europeans are both doing a pathetic job of reproducing themselves. The only Europeans who are making lots of babies are the Muslim ones. Christian European civilization is dying, and the only thing most of the people here can come up with are snarky comments attacking the messenger.
Since you stated that as fact kindly prove that he has never induged.
What's "induged"?
If you mean "indulged", how do you propose someone go about proving someone did not do something?
Reminds me of what the Muslim Turk said a few years back
Turkish president Turgut Ozal has said:
“Don’t worry, we won’t go to war with Greece. In a few years’ time, Thrace will be empty and they will be begging us to settle it”
Fortunately the Christian Orthodox Church is doing something about it...by paying extra money to families to have a 3rd child
Thank you for posting the Homily Pope Benedict gave today.
It saddens me to see the ugliness from the news forum moving to the religious forum as well. You have done a good job in refuting the attackers.
Just wanted to say hello, let you know I read your posts, and am still very happy in my decision to join the Church.
God bless you, Salvation!
‘If you would take the time to read his writings you would learn how wrong you are.’
I read it, I just don’t believe it, a bit like the Koran! :)
‘That isn’t what he said. Doesn’t his message deserve to be evaluated on the basis of what he actually said, rather than what you think he means?’
No, I reserve the right to hold my own opinions and to choose what I think people mean by what they say.
‘In point of fact, the Catholic objections to contraception are based in natural law, and we think it’s just as wrong when Protestants (or anyone else) do it.’
Just as the muslims think it’s wrong when you eat pork. Both are irrelevant to me as a non-catholic.
‘And, in another point of fact, Catholic Europeans and Protestant Europeans are both doing a pathetic job of reproducing themselves. The only Europeans who are making lots of babies are the Muslim ones.’
Interesting to consider that the UK has one of the lowest muslim populations in europe and one of the lowest catholic populations in europe, but has one of the higher birth rates in europe.
‘Christian European civilization is dying, and the only thing most of the people here can come up with are snarky comments attacking the messenger.’
He’s someone else’s messenger. If you want to take notice of him, feel free, but don’t expect those who shed the yoke of rome many centuries to do so. It’s as silly as expecting Americans to take orders from Her Majesty the Queen.
No! You a can no make a the rules... if you a don't a play a the game a!
Let me know, OK?
It must be wonderful to be so open-minded. Your response is the equivalent of a petulant child sticking his fingers in his ears and saying, "La-la-la I don't hear you".
The level of discourse on FR sinks lower by the day.
I should also tell you that I am now attending a Tridentine Mass almost every week. Nonetheless, I have never regretted defending those Catholic faithful such as you who attend the Novus Ordo for whatever reason. Whenever the schizzies emerge from time to time to denounce the Novus Ordo or its loyal Catholic attendees, you immediately come to mind and inspire defense.
May God continue to bless you and yours.
I’m sorry - for a second I thought I was having a discussion with a reasonable person.
My bad.
Gosh, that's dumb. One would have had to keep Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict under strict surveillance from puberty to the present moment; or at least from his vow of celibacy to the present moment.
It's like trying to prove "'Shots' has never voted for a Socialist Workers' Party candidate." If you assert this, there's no way to disprove it. And hey, I'm willing to believe it. Stands to reason.
“The level of discourse on FR sinks lower by the day.”
amen.
I read it, I just don’t believe it, a bit like the Koran! :)
The question is whether he has said or taught that the natural and moral law that applies to Catholics, doesn't apply to Protestants; or if this would be a logical conclusion from his other teachings. This question, then, is one which could be proven or disproven through evidence; it doesn't require 'belief'.
We made up for a lot of ‘em. Have 7 of ‘em. Don’t regret a second of it, either.
“The question is whether he has said or taught that the natural and moral law that applies to Catholics, doesn’t apply to Protestants; or if this would be a logical conclusion from his other teachings. This question, then, is one which could be proven or disproven through evidence; it doesn’t require ‘belief’.”
Thank you Mrs. D.
And as I’m in the middle of reading Salt of the Earth, it is easy to confirm by the pope’s own words that he does not hold the view he is being accused of.
If he did hold such a view he would say so, being the bold and direct man that he is.
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