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"Neo-Con" Do You Qualify?
PC Free News ^ | September 4, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 09/04/2007 11:50:38 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican

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To: tacticalogic
Actually, I cited 1937 because that is when the GOP finally figured out that the New Deal was not going to be repealed during the Depression after they were reduced to 8 Senators for demanding that which was not to happen. 1937 is thus very relevant.

If you guys want to suicide politically and cause losses on matters that REALLY matter such as guns, babies, marriages, war, military appropriations, matters which are quite winnable, go nominate paleoPaulie again as a Libertoonian. His antiAmerican antiwar pretensions and support for Al Qaeda's talking points guarantee that he will pull a lot more votes from the Demonrats than he will from a GOP nominee.

I don't think I said anything about rolling back decades of federal largesse. I keep reminding myself that the important issues listed in the previous paragraph are the ones on which Western Civilization rests while money will always be only money and will be up for grabs in every election.

In choosing important years, I would think that one particular year between 29 and 33 AD was of far more consequence than 1789 or even 1776. Countries come and go but God is as permanent a Factor as there can be.

181 posted on 09/05/2007 9:42:45 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ovrtaxt

Ron Paul had an opportunity to vote for parents and LIFE by voting to block state to state travel for abortions and he did not vote to protect life or parental rights.

* Voted NO on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)

Ron Paul had an opportunity to protect the life of a pregnant mother and her unborn child from violent crime, and he did not vote to protect a pregnant mother or her child from violent crime.

* Voted NO on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)

Ron Paul had an opportunity to protect life by voting against human cloning and he did not vote against human cloning.

* Voted NO on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)

Ron Paul had the opportunity to make the murder of an unborn child a crime, and he did NOT vote to make the murder of an unborn child a crime.

* Voted NO on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)

But when he had the opportunity to protect the life of violent criminals, he stepped to the plate and voted to protect the life of the gulity.

* Opposes the death penalty. (Jan 2007)

This is NOT the voting record of one who respects, reveres and protects LIFE... other than criminal life.

Now, the writer of this column is clearly no fan of Ron Paul’s for a laundry list of reasons stated in this and previous columns on the subject.

But he did NOT cast these votes, Ron Paul did, and he did NOT mis-characterize these votes. There are as they are...

While they might be “libertarian” votes, they are NOT “conservative” votes.


182 posted on 09/05/2007 9:52:46 AM PDT by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Alberta's Child
I am a very conservative guy on guns, babies, marriages, street crime, war, military appropriations and a stainless steel spined foreign policy of an interventionist sort who does not always agree on some other issues. As a very fully participating member of the 1960s-1970s New Right with YAF, YRs, CRs, a GOP Congressional nomination, a volunteer pro-life lawyer for 1100 people arrested shutting down abortion mills by sit-ins, and an often volunteer lawyer for NRA members arrested in Connecticut when I lived there, I am simply a conservative in the normal definition. Neo-conservatives are in their late 80s and 90s. I'm no kid any more but I am not that old yet. I was never actively liberal and became a right-winger when Goldwater ran (although I did not know of his Planned Barrenhood connections) and I was in a Jesuit prep school.

I have not "surrendered" on the immigration but never took the Limbaugh/Hannity position in the first place. I actively desire that we have a large number of ethnic social conservatives enter our country with or without "papers" because I do not trust the Junior League, the polo club or even the country club to end Roe vs. Wade and lavenders posing as "married." I also believe that we need to expand the military manpower pool. Roe vs. Wade cost us 50+ million babies. The Mexicans have made up for about half of that number of the murdered. Their birth rate will make up for some more.

When I say that the issue is over, what I mean is that those folks are here and few are going back. Those who don't like the immigration will probably succeed in building a new Berlin Wall along our Southwestern border. That's fine except for the image presented of our nation as paranoid. The issue is still over. We may establish methods for qualifying newcomers such as we had during most of the century plus during which we claimed to control immigration. Probably a good idea. To rid ourselves of the need for the immigration, we need to abolish Roe vs. Wade and keep it abolished while two or three decades elapse. Then we will have plenty of Americans to fill jobs and fight wars. End of controversy.

I have not yet read the actual screed of the present Mexican president who is said to have expressed himself as having an interest in Mexicans and their rights wherever they may reside (as in the US). My opinions on the subject are subject to revision if he actually said that or anything like it. I may disagree with some of my fellow Americans on this immigration matter but it is my business and their business and NONE of the Mexican gummint's business.

As to other issues, the New Deal shows no signs of being vulnerable in our lifetimes. Show me actual chances to end a New Deal program and I will join you on the barricades. Otherwise, I have one life to live and prefer to spend it on the doable: guns (DC CT of Appeals decision upholding the INDIVIDUAL RTKBA), babies (one SCOTUS judge from victory), marriage (likewise), street crime (we are winning in the courts), military appropriations, war, interventionism.

183 posted on 09/05/2007 10:06:34 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
The first entry on Free Republic's Home Page - in case you've never read it:

Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!

If that's not what you're after, why are you here?

184 posted on 09/05/2007 10:13:26 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

That’s why I am here but the question is why phonycons who support paleopacifists like paleoPaulie are here. Paleowhateverism has nothing to do with conservatism as you and the Galveston wimp and fraud and his other supporters are about to find out when the real voting begins in December or January and the trash is taken out. Tick, tick, tick.....


185 posted on 09/05/2007 12:09:15 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

You’ve gotten just creative enough to have rendered youself incomprehensible. Take your silly whining ass down the road.


186 posted on 09/05/2007 12:11:58 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I am working on the championing of conservative causes and not on spreading paleocowardice in foreign policy. If the day ever comes when it is possible "to roll back decades of government largesse" be sure to let us know but it doesn't seem as likely as victory over Islamofascism, victory over Roe vs. Wade, victory against crawling lavenderism, victory in favor of the INDIVIDUAL RTKBA, etc.

Work on the possible; dream of but waste no effort on the impractical; prioritize efforts to maximize victories.

Read the federal budget line by line and recognize that a Congress willing to return to only those functions allowed by the Tenth Amendment won't happen in my lifetime or likely your lifetime or God's lifetime. Likely no executive will be elected on that basis either and, while I earnestly hope for a SCOTUS elevation for Janice Rogers Brown, who will vote as you wish since she has publicly called for the end of New Deal programs, that call will be her biggest stumbling block by far to Senate approval of any nomination of her to SCOTUS.

Of course, you are free to disagree but that is self-evident since you are aligning with paleowhatevers.

187 posted on 09/05/2007 12:42:41 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: tacticalogic; fieldmarshaldj; ejonesie22; Allegra; Petronski
Your problem and that of paleowhatevers generally is a complete inability to comprehend conservatism, backbone in foreign policy, military needs, the essential nature of social issues compared with mere money issues, and so forth, coupled with a burning desire to misappropriate the descriptive term "conservative" as though paleowhateverism were a legitimate political movement rather than a bunch of social eccentrics.

If some of you want to call yourselves libertarians, fine, since some of you are libertarians. Of course, nationality has nothing to do with the rights of mankind which makes for an ideological disconnect for anyone libertarian identifying with paleowhateverism.. The "blood and soil" stuff more resembles the less appetizing aspects of the decidedly non-libertarian post-WWI Central Europe than it does anything essentially American.

Meanwhile, paleoPaulie has about three more months before he faces the music from GOP voters. Tick, tick, tick....

188 posted on 09/05/2007 1:48:35 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk
Your problem and that of paleowhatevers

My "problem" is that I don't suffer self-important idiots who think making up words makes them look smart. Go pound sand.

189 posted on 09/05/2007 1:55:30 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: BlackElk
Your problem and that of paleowhatevers generally is a complete inability...

You could have stopped there ya know...

190 posted on 09/05/2007 1:58:14 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

“Neo-Con” Do You Qualify?

Nope...I’m a “Been-A-Con”.


191 posted on 09/05/2007 2:01:30 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (God rides a Harley (when his Honda VTX is in the shop!))
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To: BlackElk
As I suspected . . . there's nothing "neo-conservative" about what you've posted there.

You and William Kristol probably agree on no more than 10% of any group of major issues.

192 posted on 09/05/2007 3:53:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: tacticalogic

It must be tough for you when you have to shave. Don’t be so hard on yourself.


193 posted on 09/05/2007 4:09:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: ejonesie22

Good point! God bless.


194 posted on 09/05/2007 4:10:54 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

I like things simple and to the point...


195 posted on 09/05/2007 4:17:40 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (I don't use a sarcasm tag, it kills the effect...)
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To: BlackElk
It must be tough for you when you have to shave. Don’t be so hard on yourself.

Go find somebody else to help you start you little flame war, junior.

196 posted on 09/05/2007 5:11:14 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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