[Publius Valerius]

Sorry, refusal to show a receipt does not constitute reasonable grounds for detainment, especially when you ask everyone for the receipt, otherwise you are saying you suspect EVERYONE of shoplifting.

No, you're not suspecting everyone of shoplifting. You are suspecting the people who don't show their receipt of shoplifting, which is a reasonable inference. There is simply no reason for a non-shoplifter not to show a receipt. It benefits everyone. It helps the store control shrinkage and helps keep prices down, which benefits consumers.

This guy refused to show is receipt; he was detained. He tried to leave--which is attempted escape (a crime with which he ought be charged)--and he paid a little bit of a price for it. If you want to be a jerk, be prepared for the consequences.

[Quick1]

You are suspecting the people who don't show their receipt of shoplifting, which is a reasonable inference.

No, it's not, anymore than asserting your Fifth Amendment right to remain silent means you are guilty of a crime. Assertion of your rights cannot be used against you.

There is simply no reason for a non-shoplifter not to show a receipt.

Sure there is. "I would prefer not to be treated like a criminal in your store". Reason enough?

It benefits everyone. It helps the store control shrinkage and helps keep prices down, which benefits consumers.

There are many, MANY other ways to accomplish that. For instance, for big ticket items, you hand the person a tag to pay for the item, and then the customer turns in the tag at a loading dock. Not to mention that most theft is done by employees.

This guy refused to show is receipt; he was detained.

And he will get a nice check from his unlawful detainment suit.

He tried to leave--which is attempted escape his right

Fixed that for you.

If you want to be a jerk, be prepared for the consequences.I wasn't aware that being a jerk was illegal nowadays. We're going to have to build more prisons!

[Starwolf]

This guy refused to show is receipt; he was detained. He tried to leave--which is attempted escape (a crime with which he ought be charged)--and he paid a little bit of a price for it. If you want to be a jerk, be prepared for the consequences.

Incorrect on all points

- The detention was illegal for several reasons, not the least of it was that people that did not enter the store were also detained.

- Store did not have probable or reasonable cause. Refusal to open a package or show a receipt, BY ITSELF, is not cause to invoke shopkeepers privledge. Any miminally trained LP bubba would know that

- It was his right to leave under the circumstances described

- CC people should be charged criminally, they are going to pay in civil court

[Starwolf]

This guy refused to show is receipt; he was detained. He tried to leave--which is attempted escape (a crime with which he ought be charged)--and he paid a little bit of a price for it. If you want to be a jerk, be prepared for the consequences.

Incorrect on all points

- The detention was illegal for several reasons, not the least of it was that people that did not enter the store were also detained.

- Store did not have probable or reasonable cause. Refusal to open a package or show a receipt, BY ITSELF, is not cause to invoke shopkeepers privledge. Any miminally trained LP bubba would know that

- It was his right to leave under the circumstances described

- CC people should be charged criminally, they are going to pay in civil court

[Xenalyte]

There is simply no reason for a non-shoplifter not to show a receipt.

Yeah, there is - convenience. Mine is often hampered by a functional illiterate's inability to figure out that the one item on my receipt and the one item in my bag are the same.