Posted on 09/02/2007 1:09:49 PM PDT by kristinn
This might just be another BS moment at the Kos - they’ve had so many of them I’ve lost count. But if this is legit we just had a serious breach of national security.
“I have a friend who is an LSO on a carrier attack group that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz. (LSO: Landing Signal Officer- she directs carrier aircraft while landing) She told me we are going to attack Iran. She said that all the Air Operation Planning and Asset Tasking are finished. That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
I asked her why she is telling me this.Her answer was really amazing. ….”I know this will sound crazy coming from a Naval officer”, she said. “But we’re all just waiting for this administration to end. Things that happen at the senior officer level seem more and more to happen outside of the purview of XOs and other officers who typically have a say-so in daily combat and flight operations. Today, orders just come down from the mountaintop and there’s no questioning. In fact, there is no discussing it. I have seen more than one senior commander disappear and then three weeks later we find out that he has been replaced. That’s really weird. It’s also really weird because everyone who has disappeared has questioned whether or not we should be staging a massive attack on Iran.”"We’re not stupid. Most of the members of the fleet read well enough to know what is going on world-wise. We also realize that anyone who has any doubts is in danger of having a long military career yanked out from under them. Keep in mind that most of the people I serve with are happy to be a part of the global war on terror. It’s just that the touch points are what we see since we are the ones out here who are supposedly implementing this grand strategy. But when you liason with administration officials who don’t know that Iranians don’t speak Arabic and have no idea what Iranians live like, then you start having second thoughts about whether these Administration officials are even competent.”
(So much for the “apolitical” moniker)
“I asked her about the attack, how limited and so forth.
“I don’t think it’s limited at all. We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory. I think this is going to be massive and sudden, like thousands of targets. I believe that no American will know when it happens until after it happens. And whatever the consequences, whatever the consequences, they will have to be lived with. I am sure if my father knew I was telling someone in a news organization that we were about to launch a supposedly secret attack that it would be treason. But something inside me tells me to tell it anyway.”
I asked her why she was suddenly so cynical.
“I have become cynical only recently. I also don’t believe anyone will be able to stop this. Bush has become something of an Emperor. He will give the command, and cruise missiles will fly and aircraft will fly and people will die, and yet few of us here are really able to cobble together a great explanation of why this is a good idea. Of course many of us can give you the 4H Club lecture on democracy in the Mid East. But if you asked any of the flight officers whether they have a clear idea of what the goal of this strike is, your answer would sound like something out of a think tank policy paper. But it’s not like Kosovo or when we relieved the tsunami victims. There everyone could tell you in a sentence what we were here doing.”
“That’s what’s missing. A real sense of purpose. What’s missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they can’t build a nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. It’s like we aren’t allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat. It’s almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the policy work.”
She had to hang up. She left by telling me that she believes the attack is a done deal. “It’s only a matter of time before their orders come and they will be sent to station and told to go to Red Alert. She said they were already practicing traps, FARP and FAST.” (Trapping is the act of catching the tension wires when landing on the carrier, FARP is Fleet Air Combat Maneuvering Readiness Program- practice dogfighting- and FAST is Fleet Air Superiority Training).
She seemed lost. The first time in my life I have ever heard her sound off rhythm, or unsure of why she is doing something. She knows that there is something rotten in the Naval Command and she, like many of her associates are just hoping that the election brings in someone new, some new situation, or something.
“Yes. We’re gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I see what’s going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays. And I have a sick feeling about how it’s all going to turn out.”
I passed this post on to the ONI AG - Office of Naval Intelligence AG to have a look-see and see if they can find this young lady - if she exists and have a chat. An active duty officer on a ship preparing for operations giving out the op plans to said operation is called - treason.
Again, considering the source (Kos), buyer beware, but if true the poster who goes by the name “Maccabee” - will be having some visitors.
It's espionage.
As usual kristinn. You’ve gone the cause of freedom and justice a great service. I applaud your efforts.
Either way, the poster needs to be found, and he needs a serious talking to by the FBI and NCIS.
Mark
Should be easy to find if the Navy wants to.
This is the reason that I think that this is probably a "planted" story. Even the KOSsacks know that there can't be that many female LSOs in the fleet, so I can't imagine any of them, as dimwitted as they are, purposely exposing one of their compatriots to possible treason charges, and given that she's operating out of a war zone, a possible death sentence.
I think that it's far more likely that one of the KOSsacks has a grudge against a female LSO, and wants to set her up.
Mark
Given the assertion that this information came out of a war zone, it would be even more likely that the new accommodations would be 6' by 3' by 6' deep.
Mark
Thanks.
Aids Dementia with multiple drug abuse combined with severe BDS is the probable cause of the bs that comes from these losers in life.
I agree, that would more likely be the outcome.
that is why the Iranians moved all their air assets around in the past 24 hours....
just heard 10 straight EAMs go out in a row from Andrews AFB.
Iranians are Persian and not Arabic nor do they speak Arabic. They speak Farsi.
ping !
Beat me to it. I'm 47 and just barely remember those commercials. I doubt there are many 47 year-old LSOs with 8 years of Marine experience (she would have to have joined up in her late 30s). Not impossible, just unbelievable.
Strange use of terms for someone who seems familiar with miitary terms. A LSO is assigned to a single ship, not a group.
that is planning and staging a strike group deployment into the Gulf of Hormuz.... That means that all the targets have been chosen, prioritized, and tasked to specific aircraft, bases, carriers, missile cruisers and so forth.
Standard proceedure for any potential threat. Nothing unusual here.
“But we’re all just waiting for this administration to end."
Pure, un-adulterated, BS.
Today, orders just come down from the mountaintop and there’s no questioning. In fact, there is no discussing it.
That's the way it works. President gives a order (he is C-in-C, after all), the Joint Chiefs decide how to make it work and issue the appropriate orders down the chain. They don't tend to ask the opinion of the ships captain other than to inquire if it can or cannot be done.
We’re not stupid.
Well, if you are who you say you are and you're not just a figment of Kos's imagination... You Are.
We are shipping in and assigning every damn Tomahawk we have in inventory.
She just change hats from LSO to Armaments Officer who knows how many Tomahawks we have in inventory. Incidently, Tomahawks are not generally deliverd by aircraft carriers or carrier-born aircraft. So again, how would she know?
“That’s what’s missing. A real sense of purpose. What’s missing is the answer to what the hell are we doing out here threatening this country with all this power? Last night in the galley, an ensign asked what right do we have to tell a sovereign nation that they can’t build a nuke. I mean the table got EF Hutton quiet. Not so much because the man was asking a question that was off culture. But that he was asking a good question. In fact, the discussion actually followed afterwards topside where someone in our group had to smoke a cigarette. The discussion was intelligent but also in lowered voices. It’s like we aren’t allowed to ask the questions that we always ask before combat. It’s almost as if the average seaman or soldier is doing all the policy work.”
And that folks is just plain ludicrous. That one snapped the mainspring on my BS meter.
Carolyn
I’m sure this is just more BS from Kos. There have been claims that the US is going to attack Iran, along with timetables, for over a year now, and each one has been BS. Of course Iran is going to be liberated, and US forces will be involved. Some left wing moron has just concocted another using easily verified (or disconfirmed) details.
Here’s mine.
The mullahcracy of Iran will be overthrown and the people of Iran will be doing the beheading of those Shiite-heads. The armed forces of Iran will be destroyed in hours or days by US forces, and the Arab / PLO thugs will make a run for the borders when their paymaster’s checks start bouncing. This will take place as early as 2008, or as late as 2010 (IOW, in the next administration).
Attack on Iran Said To Be Imminent
the sun | 9/28/07 | By BENNY AVNI
Posted on 09/28/2007 6:31:21 AM EDT by Flavius
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1903440/posts
Before Bush was elected, seamen and privates could give orders to admirals and generals, and they would be obeyed without question.
Is this another one of those “Phony Soldiers” that Rush was talking about????
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