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1 posted on 09/02/2007 10:38:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A half billion, at least half imported, will (and already is) not America.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 10:40:41 AM PDT by Old 300
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Immigrant surge leads U.S. toward half billion people

And national suicide for the USA, as it is taken over by Mexico.
3 posted on 09/02/2007 10:42:49 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

50% in 53 years? That’s a bit substantial. Gonna need a lot more governent to administer all of the social services they will demand. Nice way to keep wages down as well.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 10:42:56 AM PDT by misterrob (There's no difference between a knee jerk liberal and a knee jerk conservative.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Uh, does anyone remember voting for this to happen, or voting for an elected representative who advocates that this come about? I don’t.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 10:44:58 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Myers also cast doubts on the study, noting that the analysis hinges on the assumption that fertility and immigration rates will both remain high.

From what I heard an average child birth per woman in Mexico is 2 and a average child birth per woman alien in the US is 5.

The assumption I get is welfare pays enough to have more children.

6 posted on 09/02/2007 10:45:15 AM PDT by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. a man you're not ashamed to support full heartedly..)
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The Center for Immigration Studies describes itself as "the nation's only think tank devoted exclusively to research and policy analysis of the economic, social, demographic, fiscal, and other impacts of immigration on the United States."

***********************EXCERPTs***********************

Founded in 1985 as a think tank to support the more activist work of the anti-immigrant Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR), CIS is dedicated "to expand the base of public knowledge and understanding of the need for an immigration policy that gives first concern to the broad national interest. The Center is animated by a pro-immigrant, low-immigration vision which seeks fewer immigrants but a warmer welcome for those admitted."

CIS describes itself as “independent” and “nonpartisan,” but its studies, reports, and media releases consistently support its restrictionist agenda and works closely on Capitol Hill with Republican Party immigration restrictionists. However, CIS has achieved credibility with the media and in think tank circles because of its lack of the kind of strident anti-immigrant rhetoric associated with many restrictionist groups, its willingness to invite pro-immigrant voices to its forums, and the scholarly format of its reports.

Members of its board of directors are: Patrick Burns, Thomas C.T. Brokaw, George Grayson, David Simoz (chair and president), Carol Iannone, Otis Graham (co-chair), Peter Nuñez, Frank Morris, William Chip, Jacquelye Jackson, Vernon Briggs, Scott McConnell, and Willard Fair. Steven Camarota is director of research, and Mark Kirkorian (formerly a policy expert with FAIR) is executive director. Annual revenues in 2002 were $898,810. (1)

Origins, History, and Impact

The Center for Immigration Studies was founded in 1985 as a spin-off of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). Another FAIR spin-off is the Immigration Reform Law Institute, which functions as the litigation arm of FAIR, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. (3)

CIS publishes books, reports, papers, and monthly backgrounders. Its analysis on such issues as immigrant voting and electoral redistricting, impacts on low-wage and high-skilled workers, and tax impacts are closely followed by immigration experts of all persuasions. In the mid-1990s, immigration restrictionists, boosted by findings of congressional commissions, seemed to be on the verge of passing legislation to turn the legislative tide that had favored immigration flows since the 1986 amnesty. But largely because of lobbying by a right-left, corporate-pro-immigrant coalition in which high-tech industries played a leading role, immigration restrictionist groups likes CIS and FAIR saw their restrictionist agenda die in Congress. Lately, as concerns about the plight of low-wage labor, outsourcing, and national security merge, CIS and restrictionism in general are once again gaining a new hearing in Congress.

“Let’s be clear,” wrote Frank Sharry of the National Immigration Forum, “CIS was birthed by FAIR, the militant anti-immigration group. The CIS executive director moved from FAIR to CIS to head up the organization. Although now independent, the two organizations share the same basic agenda: an American version of what in Europe is called ‘zero immigration.’” According to Sharry, CIS masquerades as an objective, “squeaky clean” think tank, but CIS is “simply churning out high-sounding, low-credibility grist for the high-pitch, low-road anti-immigration forces in the United States.” This assessment of CIS is widely shared among pro-immigrant groups, but CIS studies are not only frequently cited by the “low-road” nativist forces but also by major news media. (4)

CIS has also been critiqued as being part of a network of anti-immigrant groups that cater to a white supremacist constituency by right-wing economic libertarians who believe in the benefits of mass and unfettered immigration. A Wall Street Journal op-ed (June 15, 2004), that was widely praised and circulated by pro-immigrant groups, reported that despite the fact that CIS “may strike right-wing poses in the press,” it and other like-minded groups “support big government, mock federalism, deride free markets, and push a cultural agenda abhorrent to any self-respecting social conservative.” A follow-up article in the Wall Street Journal titled “Borderline Republicans” described the anti-immigration network this way: “CIS, FAIR, NumbersUSA, ProjectUSA—and more than a half-dozen similar groups that Republicans have become disturbingly comfortable with—were founded or funded (or both) by John Tanton. In addition to trying to stop immigration to the U.S., appropriate population control measures for Dr. Tanton and his network include promoting China’s one-child policy, sterilizing Third World women, and wider use of RU-486.” (5) Replying to this charge, Krikorian wrote in National Review Online that CIS does not take a “position on anything that does not involve U.S. immigration policy.” (6)

Rep. Chris Cannon (R-Utah) has come under sharp criticism by CIS and other immigration restrictionist groups for his pro-immigration positions. According to Cannon, “Tanton set up groups like CIS and FAIR to take an analytical approach to immigration from a Republican point of view so that they can give cover to Republicans who oppose immigration for other reasons.” (5)

Executive director Krikorian, who appears regularly before congressional committees discussing immigration policy, describes himself and CIS as being “conservative” but as not belonging to the “high-immigration Right” as represented by the Wall Street Journal. According to Krikorian, “The high-immigration Right works hand-in-glove with the anti-American Left.” Like many anti-immigrant groups, CIS believes that Corporate America and leftists share a common agenda of open borders, albeit for different reasons. (6)

Funding

Early funding for CIS was channeled through U.S. Inc, a nonprofit established and still directed by John Tanton, who was one of the cofounders of the Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR). (3) Among the right-wing foundations that fund CIS are Sarah Scaife Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, Jaqueline Hume Foundation, Carthage Foundation, and Scaife Family Foundation. (2)

Right Web connections


Sources

(1) IRS Form 990, CIS, 2002

(2) “Center for Immigration Studies,” MediaTransparency.org
http://www.mediatransparency.org/search_results/info_on_any_recipient.php?1147

(3) “The Puppeteer,” Intelligence Report. Southern Poverty Law Center, Summer 2002
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=93

(4) Frank Sharry et al., “A Response to CIS’s Article, ‘The High Cost of Cheap Labor Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget’,” September 7, 2004
http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/articles/bio#bio

(5) “Borderline Republicans,” Wall Street Journal, June 17, 2004
www.hispanicvista.com/html4/062104comm.htm

(6) Mark Krikorian, “Strange Bedfellows,” National Review Online, March 21, 2004
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/krikorian200403310836.asp


7 posted on 09/02/2007 10:45:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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I know that some may disagree but..........Considering the Electoral Vote when we elect Presidents, I was taught in school that one important reason for it is so that someone that is proven to be a major enemy of our way of life, cannot be elected President. The Electorial College can put a stop to this person getting elected. In other words, if we had a person of Hispanic decent running for President that favored supporting all Mexicans the right to enter this country, uncontrolled, the Electorial College can refuse to allow him/her to be President. Even if California had all of its Electorial votes go for the Hispanic, other states could stop it. I believe that the Electorial College is a safety valve and should be kept in place.


8 posted on 09/02/2007 10:46:09 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

God help us.


9 posted on 09/02/2007 10:46:44 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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"It's important to understand where we're headed in population size and why."

The whys are fully understood -- inadequate (to say the least) border enforcement, a huge influx of legal immigration from the Third World since the passage of the Immigration Act of 1965, and anchor baby laws combined with an out-of-control welfare state that encourages new arrivals (both legal and illegal) to have large families.

11 posted on 09/02/2007 10:49:55 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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Another two half billion more after that.

The idea of over a billion Americans is considered a bad one by many here, but personally see a large American population as one of the most effective ways to keep the United States' preeminent position to the country's will (economically, culturally, and militarily) abroad as China and India rise.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 11:09:01 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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It’s shocking to realize how overpopulated America already is.

Currently, only China and India have more people than America.


20 posted on 09/02/2007 11:11:08 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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Japan is roughly the same size as California, with a population of around 140 million. And considering Japan is very mountainous, the people are crammed into an even smaller amount of land than might appear on a map.

California can have 60 million people. Germany--roughly the same size--has about 90 million while still having plenty of rural regions.

22 posted on 09/02/2007 11:12:35 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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This we do not need. Then the US will no longer be the US. It will be a Third World, possibly Muslim, country. It is our children and their children who will suffer.
27 posted on 09/02/2007 11:15:16 AM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It is not too late to return to the pre-insanity levels of 1965.


31 posted on 09/02/2007 11:18:54 AM PDT by montag813
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39 posted on 09/02/2007 11:26:49 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The RATs love this! More votes for more socialism. It’s nearly over, folks. Hitlery will see to it that the invasion will continue and the borders opened to any and all. The Republic will then die the death.


57 posted on 09/02/2007 11:48:54 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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What is not mentioned is that many of these will be speaking there own language, not be learning English, nor conforming to U.S. cultural norms. Imported along with them are third world behaviors, realities, and more gangs as well. I was just thinking the other day how California is getting low on gang members so yoo hoo!! (sarc)
65 posted on 09/02/2007 11:59:50 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Beats me how people are still out there thinking there will be no such thing as a NAU style, or equivilent of it, on the horizon.

Each month things keep happening to march us in that direction.

The Pesos for pizza business is opening more around the country. I guess this is how the call for a common currency will happen.

Such a sad thing. Old Hillary will usher in the socalist government. Bushes will take off for Paraguay. Lucky them.


68 posted on 09/02/2007 12:05:11 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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If we have a reproduction problem, let’s encourage citizens to have children, through tax policy, or public service announcements.


82 posted on 09/02/2007 12:35:34 PM PDT by B Knotts (Tancredo '08!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the way it sounds, we need to cap LEGAL immigration as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ


85 posted on 09/02/2007 12:46:30 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (INVEST IN THE FUTURE - DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....(NO MORE CFRers))
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