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2 MORE TO SNUB STATES
The New York Post ^ | September 2, 2007

Posted on 09/02/2007 4:29:37 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Barack Obama and John Edwards yesterday joined three other Democrats planning to skip states that break party rules by holding early primaries. Their pledge leaves Hillary Rodham Clinton alone in planning to compete in Florida and Michigan.

"It's become clear that Gov. [Howard] Dean and the Democratic National Committee have put together a presidential nomination process that's in the best interests of our party and our nation," Obama said.

The two men, along with Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson and Joe Biden, have signed a pledge circulated by Democratic leaders of the four states that have party approval to hold early contests - Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina.

It says they won't compete in other states that vote before Feb. 5, as Florida and Michigan plan to do.

"Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states ideas count, not just money," Edwards said.

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"Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states ideas count, not just money," Edwards said.

Screaming Howard Dean leads the Idiot Parade of Democrat Candidates for President.

1 posted on 09/02/2007 4:29:40 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

Last night’s news in Florida told about how this is going to lead to a big drop in donations for the democrats from Florida.....


2 posted on 09/02/2007 4:45:31 AM PDT by Vermonter
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To: Vermonter

Democratic leadership has flawed logic.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 4:49:03 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: Vermonter

Just an honest guess....but I think this act of stupidity that they’ve shown over the past two weeks...have lost them 25,000 Florida Democratic votes in next years election. And if they continue...they could lose 100,000 hard core democrats. Even the states around Florida are looking at this....and shaking their heads.

For those who remember the 1860 Democratic party meeting...it was a huge issue....in Charleston....where the Alabama delegation just plain walked out and the meeting could not carry on. They met a month later...with puppets running the show...to get Douglas on the Democratic ticket (he was supposed to be the easy winner of the Charleston meeting). The south got upset after the 2nd convention...went down the street and had a short meeting where a totally different Democrat was put up for their runner. Smell a comparison here? Lincoln really didn’t win that easily...the Democrats simply upset alot of folks in 1860’s Charleston meeting...and we are repeating that same scenario.


4 posted on 09/02/2007 4:57:14 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AmericanMade1776
Their pledge leaves Hillary Rodham Clinton alone in planning to compete in Florida and Michigan.

Hillary positioning herself to be 'independent' of party politics.

5 posted on 09/02/2007 5:00:39 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Hillary of course be the nominee for the Democrats, but the Democratic Party will suffer by this.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 5:04:37 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

2 MORE TO SNUB STATES

lib/dems just disefranchising the more important lib/dems in certain states such as florida!!!!


7 posted on 09/02/2007 5:07:42 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: AmericanMade1776

Bad quote. Makes his statement seem as though he is of the opinion that in the other 46 states (and Washington, D.C.—which shouldn’t have a vote) ideas don’t count, but money does.


8 posted on 09/02/2007 5:17:11 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

It was a bad quote for John Edwards, and for a man who is a lawyer .


9 posted on 09/02/2007 5:23:42 AM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ( my opinions do not represent the opinions of the management at Free Republic, they are mine alone.)
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"Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina need to be first because in these states ideas count, not just money," Edwards said.

Translation--I have spent all of this money and time in these four states and all I have to show for it is third place. The moving up of these various states helps Hillary [as if she needed it] because she has the money and organization to take advantage of the new schedule. All it does is move up her coronation allowing her more time to concentrate on the Reps and November. This "race" was really over before it started. Hillary was the Dem nominee once she announced her candidacy.

10 posted on 09/02/2007 5:24:19 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AmericanMade1776
“Democratic leadership has flawed logic.”

Is there a Guinness World Record for understatement?

11 posted on 09/02/2007 5:38:46 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: AmericanMade1776
A rich lawyer, too.

How did that happen? (rhetorical).

12 posted on 09/02/2007 5:39:23 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Guys, there is a big smile on my face every time I hear the local clueless democrats discussing this issue.

I live in Florida and it warms my heart.

Look, Florida is NOT going to send it’s national electors to cast their votes for (hillary!)
Florida has passed from a swing state into the red column and many in the democrat machine (DNC) see it and so does (hillary!)

The dems are no more going to win Florida than we are going to take NJ. we aren’t but thats another story

The huge mistake they are making is in backing - Their donations and the interest of the constituents in and from Florida will be dropping like a rock as democrat voters here rankle under yet another incredibly insulting snub from NE pinhead liberals who haven't yet understood that its a new day and their time is over.

The NE states are generally losing population and electors while Southern states such as Florida are gaining population at breathtaking speed as those dissatisfied citizens move out.

Florida will officially be the 3rd largest state after the next census - too late for 08 - and the next chairman that (hillary!) pushes for will attempt to rectify the situation but it isn’t going to help them in 08.

13 posted on 09/02/2007 5:53:27 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: AmericanMade1776
Democratic leadership has flawed logic.

I'd call it an oxymoron :)

14 posted on 09/02/2007 5:54:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Rules don’t apply to HRC...


15 posted on 09/02/2007 5:58:00 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: pepsionice
The absurdity of the rush to get in on the money and media coverage is getting to be too much. Do you really want the next primary to be December, 2008 for the 2012 election?

Talk about expected election fatigue now...

Leave NH and Iowa as is, and divvy up the states into a number of "super Tuesdays", trying to get the populations more or less equal, or weighting the first with small states, and the last with the big states.

There will be a need for candidates to campaign in the small states, as well as the big states at the end.

Of course, that would smack of "fairness", and might not be compatible with a number of political playbooks.

IIRC, Drudge said last Sunday that the FL move was wanted by Hillary & Co. to give her a big win after her expected losses in Iowa and NH.

16 posted on 09/02/2007 5:58:11 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: kabar
Hear hear!

(hillary!) was the nominee one day after Bush was elected in 04 and I wrote that way back then that they had nobody else except a rehash of the same old losers who lost before.

The clintons are proven winners against us, and bill will soon be the media darling until the election.

And after, if and when (hillary!) captures the WH back for the clintons and the liberal flag.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 5:58:43 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
Great cartoon. Hillary is really running without opposition. Obama is the normal Dem token black candidate to placate their most loyal constituency and the rest of them are auditioning for VP, but Hillary may choose someone else. The only serious opposition to Hilllary could have been Gore, but he prefers to be the Gorecle and profit from his new found global status.

Based on data, the MSM has allocated twice as much coverage to the Dem race as compared to the Rep primary, which really is only competitive race. Once Hillary wins the first primaries, the MSM will be agog about her choice for VP with the Rep race being more of afterthought relegated to the inside pages of the newspaper.

18 posted on 09/02/2007 6:09:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AmericanMade1776
Democratic leadership has flawed logic.

The GOP is almost certain to follow suit. If someone doesn't rein in this race-to-be-first, we'll start holding primaries before this Christmas and have the nominees locked in by next Valentine's Day.

19 posted on 09/02/2007 6:13:22 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: AmericanMade1776

Actually, snubbing Michigan may be a windfall for the Republicans. While Michigan has had a shrinking population over the years and is slated to lose another congressional seat or so in th next census, this MAY hopefully swing more people to paint this blue state red.

I’m hoping enough of my fellow voters are angry enough about the poor economy in the state and now the Dems snubbing the state, that they’ll come to their senses and vote not Democrat.


20 posted on 09/02/2007 6:31:29 AM PDT by figgers3036
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