[Luke Skyfreeper]

I'm no defender of DUIs, but this is government-oppressive bulls***. How can you be driving under the influence when you're not driving? When you're sleeping, in fact?

Our judicial system is slowly morphing into a system of lawless oppression. By lawless, I mean that the laws don't mean what they mean, they mean what some judge says they mean which is entirely different from what they actually do mean. And all of it is designed to give greater power to the government to throw your *** in jail or seize your property if you don't do exactly as they say.

[Luke Skyfreeper]

I note that in this case the government has forcibly seized at least $4,000 from this man, not including his legal fees which will probably amount to at least another $1,000 or more. And for what? He might have been charged with public intoxication, but he certainly wasn’t “driving under the influence.”

Since when the hell does “driving” mean lying on a truck vehicle sleeping?

[AmericaUnited]

the sleeping motorist faces a civil remedial fee or "driver responsibility" tax of $3000 in addition to various other fines and fees of at least $1000

ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS follow the money.

But... the guy made the big mistake of having the vehicle running.

[Manic_Episode]

"How can you be driving under the influence when you're not driving?"

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Because he is in control of the vehicle. Even if it wasn't running and he only had the keys in his pocket but is still in the vehicle he is in control of it, according to the law.

Been that way for decades around here anyways

I don't agree with it, I'm just saying how it is.

[Daffynition]

We’re just frogs in pot of water with the heat turned on low ... for now.

[Pravious]

“Our judicial system is slowly morphing into a system of lawless oppression. By lawless, I mean that the laws don’t mean what they mean, they mean what some judge says they mean which is entirely different from what they actually do mean. And all of it is designed to give greater power to the government to throw your *** in jail or seize your property if you don’t do exactly as they say.”

EXACTLY. This is 100% BS. What part of “Driving” in DUI doesn’t this “Judge” understand?

[DelphiUser]

I have a friend who was in a Bar until closing time, called a my BIL for a ride (My BIL, at that time lived in my basement, I know, not a good sign...) and sat in his truck waiting for him to arrive (it was cold, and the drive from my house is 45 min), when BIL got there He had been arrested for DUI. The truck was not running, the keys were in his pocket and he was sitting in the passenger side of the truck. The logic was he had the keys and could drive at any time. I am all for keeping the roads safe, but I have lost much respect for police because of their actions. Many police officers act like unofficial tax collectors, who's only job is to ticket and fine so they can get money to support their department The police who act this way are often not looking for violations, as much as who will actually pay the ticket. In Utah, I have purchased three new cars, each time within a week, I was picked out of a group of people going a little over the speed limit (Everyone drive 70-75 in a 65 zone here, if you don't people get mad) and ticketed, the logic (when I asked on officer) "If you can afford a new car you'll pay the fine." Remove that incentive, and they might become nice people again.

An example of this logic From a Fishing Jokes page

A couple goes on vacation to a fishing resort in northern Minnesota. The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn. The wife likes to read. One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a short nap. Although she isn't familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and continues to read her book. Along comes the game warden in his boat. He pulls up alongside her and says,"Good morning, Ma'am, what are you doing?" "Reading my book," she replies, thinking isn't that obvious? "You're in a restricted fishing area," he informs her. "But officer, I'm not fishing. Can't you see that?" "Yes, but you have all the equipment. I'll have to take you in and write you up." "If you do that, I'll have to charge you with rape," says the woman. "But I haven't even touched you," says the game warden. "That's true, but you do have all the equipment." MORAL: Never argue with a woman who reads. (Contributed by Scott Jamison, Orem,Utah)

[amigatec]

I was arrested for 2 DUI’s in the early ‘80. It was the best thing to ever happen to me!!

I thank God for the Officer that pulled me over, and hauled my butt to Jail. It was a REAL wakeup call. I may have saved some family the expense, and pain of a burial for somebody they loved very much.

I very easily could be spending 25 to life in Prison, I salute this officer for doing his job!!

[usnavy_cop_retired]

In California you can be arrested for DUI on your private property. If you are repairing your car and have a few beers and then get behind the wheel and drive the vehicle in and out of the garage, but never onto the public sidewalk or street,or just have the keys in the ignition, you can still be arrested. I know several guys that had this unfortunate situation. The law on DUI does not distinguish that the offense must occur on public property. Can you say “government gone crazy”