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What Larry Craig Did Not Do
Townhall ^ | 8/29/07 | Duane Patterson

Posted on 08/29/2007 7:03:12 AM PDT by teddyballgame

Idaho Senator Larry Craig obviously did a very bad thing in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport in June. Whatever took place between Senator Craig and an undercover police officer was bad enough that Senator Craig tried to hide it from everyone around him, public and private. It was bad enough that he pled guilty, hoping it would stay buried forever. There are many things about this affair that have made him politically radioactive, and fatally so. The press statement he gave to the media earlier Tuesday afternoon did not help make his predicament any less dire. In fact, it made it worse.

Senator Craig said very strongly that he did not do anything wrong, that he is not gay, and that he is not ruling out running for re-election next November. Here's what else Senator Craig has not done.

He has not estimated highly enough that his 'I shoulda hired a lawyer instead of trying to solve this myself' excuse doesn't fly with the American people.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: 110th; larrycraig
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To: TornadoAlley3

HILARIOUS!! Everyone should see your clip!


101 posted on 08/29/2007 11:51:14 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Harvey105
"Any Dem can get away with that. How many pubbies can?"

Some have. Vitter in LA with the prostitution scandal will survive, and it has almost completely dropped off the radar screen.

"The difference is that we have standards."

As we should. Though the problem with standards is that we've almost reached the point of expecting our people to be without any sin, an almost impossible task (especially given the field that they are in). I don't want to look like I'm defending bad behavior, but only that sometimes people make serious mistakes. The question is whether they are of a nature that the person can be forgiven, or whether it reaches the level that the person places our party and our nation at risk. Simply put, they shouldn't lie and deny, as Craig did to an embarrassing degree yesterday. Craig is now a serious liability and needs to go.

"The key for me is that anyone hiding something can be pressured/blackmailed into voting for the wrong bill lest the secret be revealed."

Exactly. Who is to say that Craig's pro-shamnesty stance wasn't a result of political blackmail ? Ditto that of Graham in SC (whom is also suspected of having similar predilictions).

"If they cannot behave, they cannot be trusted. I won’t vote for them."

Especially when they lie to our faces.

102 posted on 08/29/2007 12:05:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: azhenfud
It seems of late all the MSM has to do is cast a pebble at Republicans and, without question, WE proceed to stone them to death.

Sure, Republicans/Conservatives are held to higher regard than the less moral Democrat/Liberal - but that high regard also needs embody a sense of fairness and justice to look at the entire account before a judgment is levied.

Thats about right. You dont see them eating one another at the simple suggestion of a Republican, yet we take the bait hook line and sinker.

103 posted on 08/29/2007 1:41:42 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC Burke

Aye, aye. Well said.


104 posted on 08/29/2007 1:42:29 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Harvey105

No, I do see the big picture in that all this is an effort by democrats to drub yet another Republican out of office.


105 posted on 08/29/2007 1:43:56 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Harvey105
Look, I understand your point about integrity. Its valid.

However, I do not like liberals dictating the rules of double standards for their people and our people; and have us accept it on it face. Its an old Saul Alinsky tactic of defining your enemies.

106 posted on 08/29/2007 1:47:19 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Spirochete

You left out Bill Clinton.


107 posted on 08/29/2007 1:57:53 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: teddyballgame
He has not realized how badly he hurt the Republican Party's chances in '08, especially in the Senate, by his actions both in June and especially now in the last 48 hours. By not facing up to the music and simply announcing he will not seek re-election, or saying today that in order to make sure that Idaho is represented in the manner they deserve, he is resigning immediately, he has now virtually guaranteed that the Republicans can't win back the Senate in 2008.

Perhaps, without the 17th amendment, this problem could have been contained to Idaho?

-PJ

108 posted on 08/29/2007 2:07:47 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Repeal the 17th amendment -- it's the "Fairness Doctrine" for Congress!)
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To: Political Junkie Too
If the guy is so stupid to plead guilty in a court of law to something he says he didn’t do, he’s damn sure too stupid to be in the U.S. Senate.
109 posted on 08/29/2007 2:24:34 PM PDT by kempo (blA)
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To: Yaelle

What straight man talks like that? Who else said that about Clinton? “nasty naughty bad boy” I think he enjoyed saying those words:)


110 posted on 08/29/2007 3:54:49 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping that it will eat him last.”)
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To: teddyballgame
Idaho Senator Larry Craig obviously did a very bad thing...

A nasty naughty bad thing.

111 posted on 08/29/2007 3:58:11 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: pnh102

No straight male on the planet would ever plead guilty to perverted sex if he was really innocent.


112 posted on 08/29/2007 3:59:27 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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I guess I’m not understanding exactly what he did that was so bad. Everything I’ve read made it sound like he just tapped his foot in a way that can indicate his looking for sex, which sounds like something that could easily be mistaken. And I can understand pleading guilty if he’s not because he hoped to avoid a scandal and it almost worked. Otherwise fighting it in court is a guaranteed scandal. I honestly don’t understand this whole thing so if someone could explain it I would be grateful.


113 posted on 08/29/2007 4:36:09 PM PDT by squatterssuck
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To: teddyballgame

Why do we have undercover cops looking for foot tappers in the men’s room?


114 posted on 08/29/2007 4:37:50 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: KC Burke

Sure, a wide variety of opinions and beliefs, but none of them are an excuse for bad behavior and malfeasance in office.

We treat these guys royally and pay them handsomely. If they can behave and appreciate the opportunity given to them, they don’t deserve reelection.

Remember, it is our congressional seat, not theirs. They have no inherent claim to it. They serve at our pleasure. Perhaps we need to show our displeasure more and royal treatment less.


115 posted on 08/29/2007 5:23:52 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: fieldmarshaldj

It would seem that we agree for the most part.

I just won’t cut them any slack when it comes to their behavior. Picking up a prostitute or having sex with another man in a men’s room is not a ‘mistake’. It is a deliberate choice. At a minimum, it shows a horrible failure to use good judgment precisely when we are paying them for their good judgment.

Their particular elected position does not confer any special rights or immunities upon them. Who do they think they are — sports stars and Hollywood celebrities?

Stars and celebrities are only accountable at the box office and rarely pay a price. Pols are accountable at the ballot box and must be held to a high standard because they are not there to provide entertainment (although we do laugh at them quite a bit). They are charged with a serious business that impacts the lives of millions of people.

They should be above reproach and avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Many have done so and didn’t find it to be an imposition. We need to raise the standard, not lower it.


116 posted on 08/29/2007 5:40:35 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: KC_Conspirator

Can you think of any that we ‘stoned’ that later proved to be innocent?

No, I don’t think that ‘the seriousness of the charge’ is sufficient to throw someone overboard, but neither do I believe that we should stonewall and circle the wagons to protect a reprobate just because the Dems make that charge.


117 posted on 08/29/2007 5:44:31 PM PDT by Harvey105
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To: KC_Conspirator

The dems are just capitalizing on what the pubbie did. If they behave and avoid even the appearance of impropriety, then the dem play book can’t work.


118 posted on 08/29/2007 5:50:33 PM PDT by Harvey105
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Senator Craig....


119 posted on 08/29/2007 5:56:35 PM PDT by humblegunner (Me wise magic)
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To: teddyballgame
Since he pled guilty, it's pretty hard to give him a pass on anything he may or may not have done (caveat: he's since recanted).

Having said that, Messrs Clinton, Frank, Jefferson, McGreevey, et al never have admitted to having done anything wrong, instead, (sometimes rather successfully), have trashed their accusers.

And I can think of at least one large, disgusting, drunken U.S. Senator still lecturing to most of America 38 years after leaving a poor woman to die a watery death.

Why are Craig/Gingrich/Livingston/Packwood/Gonzalez/Foley/NIXON held to an entirely different standard than these low-life, scum-sucking Democrats?

Don't bother posting a response.

I already know the answer.

120 posted on 08/29/2007 6:04:09 PM PDT by daler (The best things in life...aren't "things.")
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