Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Left Loses the Vietnam War (Great analysis)
Tia Daily ^ | August 29, 2007 | Robert Tracinski

Posted on 08/28/2007 11:57:49 PM PDT by Angel

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last
I totally agree with his commentary. It is worth reading.
1 posted on 08/28/2007 11:57:50 PM PDT by Angel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Angel

Yeah, liberals really like to screw America over time and time again. Of course, to these leftist A-holes, America doesn’t exist. We’re just part of the global community, so just sit back and smoke a blunt.

And the same worthless garbage that was protesting then are the same people protesting the mission against terrorists now, just the drugs have baked their brains to the point where they probably still think it’s the 60s.

The 60s are over, you saggy old wierdos.

When will these stupid hippies learn to shut up and start acting like real americans?


2 posted on 08/29/2007 12:05:43 AM PDT by Tears of a Clown
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel

During Senate floor debate in September 1970, Sen. George McGovern (D) assailed his colleagues for not supporting an amendment that he had cosponsored with Senator Mark Hatfield (R-Oregon) calling for a complete withdrawal of troops from Vietnam:

“Every Senator in this chamber is partly responsible for sending 50,000 young Americans to an early grave... This chamber reeks of blood... it does not take any courage at all for a Congressman or a Senator or a President to wrap himself in the flag and say we are staying in Viet Nam, because it is not our blood that is being shed.” He blamed his colleagues for having contributed to “that human wreckage all across our land — young men without legs or arms or genitals or faces — or hopes.”


3 posted on 08/29/2007 12:08:22 AM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: donna

Dang, that just has to be a verbatim Murtha speech.


4 posted on 08/29/2007 12:15:35 AM PDT by squidly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Angel
America can’t get off the hook by blaming the loss in Vietnam on the Leftists...

Sure - the politicians and Leftists agitated for surrender and abandonment, rather than pursuing victory..

But - the American people LET them get away with it...
Not a single leftist was “called out”..
Not a single leftist traitor was charged...
Not a single lying politician was tossed out of office.
Not a single enemy of the Republic was found hanging from a light post - anywhere

Most of America was a willing accomplice to defeat in Vietnam....

5 posted on 08/29/2007 12:57:58 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tears of a Clown
There’s one major difference.

The Islamist will bring the war to our shores. When enough people here die in multiple attacks the public will eventually demand that it be stopped by any means necessary. At least I think they will...

6 posted on 08/29/2007 1:04:09 AM PDT by DB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: river rat

Remember in those days there was only MSM (main stream media). There was not alternative media or forum to get out the true message.


7 posted on 08/29/2007 1:05:20 AM PDT by Angel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Angel

Thanks for posting. Brilliant analysis. Anyone who lived through the ‘boat people’ period and experienced its effects, especially on the West Coast, will never want to see another such time again.


8 posted on 08/29/2007 1:06:25 AM PDT by tanuki (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel

btt


9 posted on 08/29/2007 1:14:08 AM PDT by DakotaRed (Liberals don't rattle sabers, they wave white flags)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel

There were hundreds of thousands of veterans coming home, who could testify to the truth - had any citizens ASKED them.
America elected to ignore them at best and slander or insult them at worse..

America elected to listen to the Democrats, Leftists, Fondas, Kerrys, Communists and all the phony “veterans” in the Fonda/Kerry “veterans against the war” zoo.

Folks should go to that cold stone wall on the Mall, and ask the 58,169 eternally young men there — who betrayed them...
It wouldn’t hurt to ask their forgiveness while they’re there...


10 posted on 08/29/2007 1:41:32 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Angel
Very good article. Thanks for posting it. My favorite passage is:

...the Vietnam War was the story of two separate failures by Democrats. The Democrats who started the war held back from using the force necessary to win it--and the Democrats who ended the war deliberately knocked all of the remaining props out from under the South Vietnamese government to ensure the defeat of an American ally.

11 posted on 08/29/2007 2:15:05 AM PDT by Puzzleman ("All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." -- Edmund Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel
This new view of how the Vietnam War ended is summed up by Max Boot:

By 1972 most of the south was judged secure and the South Vietnamese armed forces were able to throw back the Easter Offensive with help from lots of American aircraft but few American soldiers. If the US had continued to support Saigon with a small troop presence and substantial supplies, there is every reason to believe that South Vietnam could have survived.... But after the signing of the 1973 Paris Peace Accords, we all but cut off South Vietnam, even while its enemies across the borders continued to be resupplied by their patrons in Moscow and Beijing.

This thesis is still somewhat new and controversial--but there is enough truth to it that it is beginning to stick.

This thesis is new? It's been the thesis I've subscribed to my adult life.

12 posted on 08/29/2007 3:00:26 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DB

Don’t bet on it. I saw a bumper sticker yesterday that read “9/11 FORGIVE AND FORGET”. The car also had a Hillary ‘08 sticker on it.


13 posted on 08/29/2007 3:53:21 AM PDT by anoldafvet (To liberals, building a wall across the Mexican border is a violation of the Voting Rights Act.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Angel

Bump.


14 posted on 08/29/2007 4:21:04 AM PDT by Rocko ( "Where's the global warming? It's freezing in here." -- Bob Dylan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: river rat
America can’t get off the hook by blaming the loss in Vietnam on the Leftists...

Sure they can. It was the left that controlled the Congress and voted to cut off funding for the troops.

15 posted on 08/29/2007 5:21:49 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Angel

btt


16 posted on 08/29/2007 5:57:32 AM PDT by what's up
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Eagles Talon IV
"It was the left that controlled the Congress and voted to cut off funding for the troops."

True --- But the American people let them get away with it.

American stood by silently, and then reelected the bastards.

17 posted on 08/29/2007 7:54:02 AM PDT by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Angel

just remember, the war was started by a democrat.


18 posted on 08/29/2007 7:55:27 AM PDT by television is just wrong (deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END WELFARE.i)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel

19 posted on 08/29/2007 10:39:54 AM PDT by Gritty (We have two choices: prove we are the strong horse; or get taken to the glue factory-Tony Blankely)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angel

‘The Democrats who started the war held back from using the force necessary to win it—and the Democrats who ended the war deliberately knocked all of the remaining props out from under the South Vietnamese government to ensure the defeat of an American ally. ‘

Whats telling is most liberals refuse to acknowledge it was Democrats that got us into that mess, it was a Democrat President that lied to congress, and the American people about the Gulf of Tonkin Non-Incident.

I run into these idiots on occasion. After they get done sputtering, in typical cowardly liberal fashion they claim EISENHOWER was to blame for Vietnam....(shakes head).


20 posted on 08/29/2007 10:43:13 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-36 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson