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To: rustbucket

No, if I were to use the ‘they did it too’ defense then I’d be pointing out that Jefferson Davis ignored his constitution at will, and that he and his congress guaranteed a supreme court to their liking by refusing to establish one in the first place. But I’m not trying to do that. I’m just saying that if merely increasing the size of the Supreme Court is ‘court packing’ then there have been worse cases of it in our history. Van Buren added two, count ‘em two, seats to the court. Shameless.


701 posted on 09/04/2007 12:27:49 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Aside from the claims made here, why does adding a Justice or two necessarily equate to "packing" the court?

Isn't it possible that more mundane issues such a large increase in caseloads might also justify an increase in the number of justices?

What was the actual (as opposed to neo-confed-supplied) reason for Lincoln's alleged desire to increase the number of justices?

703 posted on 09/04/2007 12:32:17 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Non-Sequitur
Jefferson Davis ignored his constitution at will, and that he and his congress guaranteed a supreme court to their liking by refusing to establish one in the first place. But I’m not trying to do that.

What? When did you ever stop trying to do that? It was the Confederate Congress' duty to organize the Confederate Supreme Court, not Davis'. As you know [Link], Davis reminded the Confederate Congress of their duty to form the Confederate Supreme Court in his February 26, 1862, speech to them:

I invite the attention of Congress to the duty of organizing a supreme court of the Confederate States, in accordance with the mandate of the Constitution.

You've never provided a shred of evidence that Davis worked against the formation of that court, yet you keep making the charge.

Which of your discredited claims below would you like to discuss now?

1. Confederates locked up John Minor Botts for the duration of the war?

2. Confederates imprisoned Parson Brownlow for about a year and a half?

3. The state of Mississippi blockaded the Mississippi River and prevented traffic on it for months before the war?

4. The Confederacy did not have a Circuit Court system?

5. Claims of damage by Sherman's troops are overblown?

6. Chambersburg was burned simply because Feds burned a couple of houses and VMI?

706 posted on 09/04/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by rustbucket
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