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To: Non-Sequitur
Jefferson Davis ignored his constitution at will, and that he and his congress guaranteed a supreme court to their liking by refusing to establish one in the first place. But I’m not trying to do that.

What? When did you ever stop trying to do that? It was the Confederate Congress' duty to organize the Confederate Supreme Court, not Davis'. As you know [Link], Davis reminded the Confederate Congress of their duty to form the Confederate Supreme Court in his February 26, 1862, speech to them:

I invite the attention of Congress to the duty of organizing a supreme court of the Confederate States, in accordance with the mandate of the Constitution.

You've never provided a shred of evidence that Davis worked against the formation of that court, yet you keep making the charge.

Which of your discredited claims below would you like to discuss now?

1. Confederates locked up John Minor Botts for the duration of the war?

2. Confederates imprisoned Parson Brownlow for about a year and a half?

3. The state of Mississippi blockaded the Mississippi River and prevented traffic on it for months before the war?

4. The Confederacy did not have a Circuit Court system?

5. Claims of damage by Sherman's troops are overblown?

6. Chambersburg was burned simply because Feds burned a couple of houses and VMI?

706 posted on 09/04/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
It was the Confederate Congress' duty to organize the Confederate Supreme Court, not Davis'.

And if you had read my post I did place the blame on both. Neither Davis nor the confederate congress implemented a supreme court. Regardless of the fact that their constitution required one.

You've never provided a shred of evidence that Davis worked against the formation of that court, yet you keep making the charge.

And I'm not aware of anything that indicated he worked for the formation of that court, either. He kept his cabinet fully stocked, but couldn't be troubled about a branch of government that was required by his own constitution.

1. Confederates locked up John Minor Botts for the duration of the war?

I said that Botts was locked up without charges and without trial, which he was. I don't recall ever saying it was for the duration of the war, and are you saying that Botts wasn't locked up without trial?

2. Confederates imprisoned Parson Brownlow for about a year and a half?

I pointed out that Brownlow's paper was shut down by the confederate government in October 1861. He was forced into hiding, arrested, abused, released, kept under virtual house arrest, and finally allowed North in March of 1862. That is about half a year. Had I said a year and a half then it wouldn't have made much sense since the Union forces had liberated Kentucky by March 1863. But are you claiming that Brownlow's paper wasn't shut down and he wasn't imprisoned?

3. The state of Mississippi blockaded the Mississippi River and prevented traffic on it for months before the war?

I pointed out, again correctly, that the Mississippi state forces did declare a blockade of the river for a short period, about a week if memory serves, and that they did fire on at least one steamer during that period. I never claimed it was months before the rebellion broke out. Are you saying that Mississippi didn't close down the river at all?

4. The Confederacy did not have a Circuit Court system?

I never claimed the confederacy didn't have a circuit court. I have pointed out, correctly, that they did not have a supreme court. And I have also pointed out, also correctly, that a supreme court was required by their constitution. A circuit court was not.

5. Claims of damage by Sherman's troops are overblown?

I have said that. And considering some of the claims made around here - every structure burned, every farm field salted, womes stolen, horses raped - it isn't hard to do.

6. Chambersburg was burned simply because Feds burned a couple of houses and VMI?

That had been given as a reason for the burning. The real reason seems to be that the rebel forced tried to extort a sum of money - $100,000 in gold or $500,000 in currency - and when the people weren't able to come up with the money then the town was burned. What reason do you have for the burning?

722 posted on 09/04/2007 2:46:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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