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To: x; All
pardon me, "x", but your IGNORANCE is showing.

MANY slave-owners in the NORTH & in the SOUTH received WRITTEN GUARANTEES from the DAMNyankee high command (issued in the name of the US government and/or the War Department)that IF they would support/collaborate with the union army that they could KEEP their slaves PERMANENTLY.

sadly for YOU, several people over the years have posted copies of such GUARANTEES! (note to all: so much for "irrevocable guarantees" from the federal government!!!)

further, lincoln, the shyster lawyer & cheap/scheming politician, offered to get a Constitutional Amendment passed which would make slavery PERMANENT, if the southern states would return to the union!

the TRUTH is that neither lincoln (nor hardly anyone else, for that matter in 1861) CARED about slavery or "the plight of the slaves". period. end of story.

free dixie,sw

493 posted on 09/01/2007 11:24:50 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
the TRUTH is that neither lincoln (nor hardly anyone else, for that matter in 1861) CARED about slavery or "the plight of the slaves". period. end of story.

Apparently, recognizing the TRUTH is not among your greatest talents. For example, in his first debate with Stephen Douglas, Lincoln had this to say about slavery. The context is a quoted a speech of his, made in 1854, concerning the Kansas-Nebraska act:

... I hate it because of the monstrous injustice of slavery itself. I hate it because it deprives our republican example of its just influence in the world-enables the enemies of free institutions, with plausibility, to taunt us as hypocrites-causes the real friends of freedom to doubt our sincerity, and especially because it forces so many really good men amongst ourselves into an open war with the very fundamental principles of civil liberty-criticizing the Declaration of Independence, and insisting that there is no right principle of action but self-interest.

Pretty stout words, well before 1861. There's your "TRUTH," brother.

498 posted on 09/01/2007 11:43:30 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: stand watie
pardon me, "x", but your IGNORANCE is showing.

MANY slave-owners in the NORTH & in the SOUTH received WRITTEN GUARANTEES from the DAMNyankee high command (issued in the name of the US government and/or the War Department)that IF they would support/collaborate with the union army that they could KEEP their slaves PERMANENTLY.

sadly for YOU, several people over the years have posted copies of such GUARANTEES! (note to all: so much for "irrevocable guarantees" from the federal government!!!)

Okay, swattie, I'll bite.

Find me one of those guarantees -- online or elsewhere.

In the meantime, I'll be watching your movie for National Fake Indian Heritage Month:

My votes for stand watie, "a liar of insane proportions."

708 posted on 09/04/2007 1:29:31 PM PDT by x
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