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A Minnesota Mystery: The Kensington Runestone
WCCO.com ^ | 18 Aug 2007 | Ben Tracy

Posted on 08/25/2007 12:21:22 PM PDT by BGHater

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Classic mystery.
1 posted on 08/25/2007 12:21:24 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater
Yeah...... we "Leif Erikson-ites" were RIGHT!

NordP

2 posted on 08/25/2007 12:25:04 PM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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To: blam; SunkenCiv; MplsSteve

ping!


3 posted on 08/25/2007 12:30:56 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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To: BGHater

I’m not convinced either way, but I do find it quite plausible. If they could make it to Greenland, I see no reason they couldn’t go further from there.


4 posted on 08/25/2007 12:33:16 PM PDT by lesser_satan (Fred Thompson '08)
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I don’t know. Minnesota’s a pretty good ways from the beach.


5 posted on 08/25/2007 12:40:17 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: BGHater
The theory is that the Vikings in question entered the mid-continent via Hudson's Bay.

They would've proceeded up the Nelson River to Lake Winnipeg. There is an island in the lake which also bears rune-like markings on a rock cliff.

From Lake Winnipeg, the explorers would have proceeded up the Red River (up, in this case, being south), then followed a tributary into Western Minnesota.

A topographic map of the area around Ohman's farm reveals it is on a hill -- and that the land between the hill and the streams feeding the Red is flat as a billiard table. It's not difficult to imagine the entire area under water during the Spring thaw -- easily navigable by a shallow draft boat. The troup could well have "beached" at the base of Ohman's Hill.

Point being: the geography of the area doesn't preclude a Viking visit in 1362. Indeed, it's quite feasible.

6 posted on 08/25/2007 12:43:53 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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"You're calling him a liar. If this is a hoax he lied to his two sons, he lied to his family, lied to his neighbors and friends and lied to the world," said Scott Wolter a geologist and researcher of the Runestone.

Wow..such an impressive rebuttal. I guess that settles the argument..the rune is real!.

7 posted on 08/25/2007 12:44:00 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: saganite
I don’t know. Minnesota’s a pretty good ways from the beach.

See post #5.

It's not far-fetched, at all.

8 posted on 08/25/2007 12:47:26 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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It begs the question. Were Vikings exploring our land more than 100 years before Columbus?

Maybe. In the age of exploration the Europeans believed there to be an area of intense heat and low wind called the Doldrums and a sea of tangled weeds called the Sargasso Sea somewhere in the Atlantic. And indeed there are. But how did they know before they had set out to go exploring? One theory is that the Vikings were there earlier and the stories of the Doldrums and Sargasso Sea were passed down and spread.

And seeing that this is Minnesota, I would not be surprised if Norwegians were there in the 1300s. After all, Minnesota has a rich Scandinavian and Finnish heritage.
9 posted on 08/25/2007 12:56:22 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (From my fist to Harry Reid's face)
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To: okie01

It’s pretty reasonable. No different than the Spanish explorers a few hundred years later. The Vinland story has a lot of evidence behind it and that was 300 years prior to this. I also think there is strong evidence that ice-age europeans made it to NA up to about 50,000 years ago.


10 posted on 08/25/2007 12:58:35 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: BGHater

I don’t understand what geologic evidence is involved.
there might be chemical or even isotopic evidence but geologic?


11 posted on 08/25/2007 1:04:00 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Hillary's color is yellow.....how appropriate)
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To: RJS1950

Correct me if I’m wrong, please. But I had been taught that the northern coast of the “new world” was well known to europeans long before Columbus’s voyages.

The northern european nations had fishing fleets fighting over control of the fisheries off of Newfoundland and some trading posts were established on the coasts.

Columbus was attempting to pass under the New World’s southern edge and bypass it to the eastern spice islands.

That’s what I/we were taught.

Is that wrong?


12 posted on 08/25/2007 1:05:41 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: BGHater

Breaking news


13 posted on 08/25/2007 1:05:46 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: bert
Perhaps if the Rune was carried over from England or some other country, making it a nonnative mineral.
14 posted on 08/25/2007 1:06:23 PM PDT by BGHater (Bread and Circuses)
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To: okie01
Sounds like you know the territory.
15 posted on 08/25/2007 1:12:42 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: BGHater

Interesting post. Thank you.


16 posted on 08/25/2007 1:12:59 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: BGHater

Neat! More here...

http://www.geocities.com/athens/aegean/6726/kensington/kenfaq.htm#q2


17 posted on 08/25/2007 1:13:53 PM PDT by OSHA (Liberals will lick the boot on their necks if they think the other boot is on yours and mine.)
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"You bet your sveet patootie ve vas here."
18 posted on 08/25/2007 1:19:49 PM PDT by Old Seadog (Inside every old person is a young person saying "WTF happened?".)
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To: BGHater
In 2000 he performed one of the very few geological studies on the stone.

That's part of the problem. Many "scientists" are too quick to label anything that doesn't match "what we know to be true" as a hoax. A Canadian friend told of a buddy who was on an archaeological native indian dig and found something that "didn't belong". He excitedly showed it to the head guy, a professor, who took the item and told the kid his career would be ruined if he said anything about it.

There appears to be a concerted effort by Canadian and American governments to suppress ANY indication that others were here before the so-called "Native Americans". Look at what happened to the "Kennewick Man" site.

All kinds of anomalies pop up, like a gold chain half embedded in a lump of Pennsylvania anthracite (the "experts" say it was dropped by miners) or the finely crafted vase that fell out of a quarried block of pudding stone (limestone?) in 1888. It was handed over to a museum where it promptly disappeared. The Accretion theory wins out over Catastrophism every time.

The ending of Indiana Jones was intended as a joke but anomalies of history have a habit of disappearing into a box in the basements of museums. Granted hoaxes abound aka the Piltdown Man, but all too often real evidence is ignored or destroyed, many times because reputations and careers have been built on flawed theories.

19 posted on 08/25/2007 1:23:25 PM PDT by Oatka (A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Grimmy

The last marriage performed in the church in the Norse (Viking) settlement in Greenland occurred prior to 1492, although the attempt to colonize Greenland was even then failing due to a cooling climatic trend.


20 posted on 08/25/2007 1:34:03 PM PDT by Elsiejay (,)
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