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1 posted on 08/22/2007 7:05:43 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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No. What a stupid article.


2 posted on 08/22/2007 7:06:08 AM PDT by r9etb
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I don’t know but the weather channel is pretty pathetic about predicting local weather. I was 10 minutes into a strong storm this morning before the warning for my area was given.


3 posted on 08/22/2007 7:08:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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No, wreckless reporting from the eye of the hurricane endangers lives.


4 posted on 08/22/2007 7:08:36 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Maybe they need to get out of the prediction service business and just report the weather.

Why do we want a private business to get blame and liability for this.

Besides, didn’t the farmers almanac already do this?


5 posted on 08/22/2007 7:10:42 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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I have noticed that weather alerts here are usually hysterical for no reason. For example, several times we have a SEVERE WEATHER ALERT posted and when you read it, a 10 degree drop in temperatures is all that is predicted. Once this summer, the entire state of Iowa was under a STAGNATION ALERT. It ended at the borders of the state in each direction. I guess the wind was not blowing.

In my opinion, severe weather alerts should only be issued if there is a real danger. The frequency of these alerts caused them to be ignore.

6 posted on 08/22/2007 7:15:19 AM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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The hype comes from privately owned weather services (e.g. TWC) hawking for advertising. The more they stir doom, the more people will tune in.


7 posted on 08/22/2007 7:16:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse (McClatchy News report: Half the nation's families earn below the median family income)
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It is one of the few federal agencies that is cost effective and does a fairly good job!
8 posted on 08/22/2007 7:19:59 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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At one point Google News had Dean as a ‘catastrophic’ level 5 hurricane. I hit refresh and it was a category 1.
9 posted on 08/22/2007 7:26:12 AM PDT by kinoxi
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Yes,and
no.


10 posted on 08/22/2007 7:26:35 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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Lott's usually on target, but he misses here.

Despite dire predictions from the National Hurricane Center, no hurricanes hit the U.S. last year. This year they are again predicting as many as 10 hurricanes, up to five of them hitting the U.S.

First of all, I don't see ANY seasonal hurricane forecast predicting the number of hits - instead, they usually predict a statistical chance of a given part of the coast getting hit.

Second, you can have a very active hurricane season and have no hits on the US, and vice versa - Andrew happened during an otherwise slow year.

Third, forecasts are just that - forecasts. Last year, there was an unexpected early el Nino.

And all I see from Accuweather is hype.

11 posted on 08/22/2007 7:29:35 AM PDT by dirtboy (Impeach Chertoff and Gonzales. We can't wait until 2009 for them to be gone.)
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The private weather services (Accu-Weather and TWC) get all their data from NOAA/NWS. They simply do not have the resources to gather the data (satellites, Cray computers etc); they just put their own predictions together. TWC is mainly entertainment now. IMHO, the data gathering and forecast probality should be left to NOAA/NWS. Ever notice that they never say it WILL rain, rather that it MIGHT rain ....

Another note - Ole ex-Senator Ric Santorum wanted to privatize (Accu Weather is in State College PA). Groups like BOAT US were vehemently opposed to this and contributed to his opponent. Lots of boaters could give a rat’s a!! about abortion but wanted to keep the free non-commercial weather radio.


13 posted on 08/22/2007 7:36:46 AM PDT by Seajay (Ordem e Progresso)
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Yeah sure, the media sells hype, but as more and more people move the coastal areas, it is necessary.

Those of us that grew up on the coast understand hurricane prep starts June 1st.

14 posted on 08/22/2007 7:37:47 AM PDT by SouthTexas
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I followed the entire history of Dean from a disturbance off the coast of Africa to it’s current status. The predictions, both government and private, had Dean going just about everywhere except where it eventually went, from out to sea in the Atlantic, up the East Coast, into the Carolinas, Miami, the Keys, Hispanola, and the Gulf Coast. Predicting the course of a hurricane is not easy, and if this writer thinks he can do better, then let’s see him make his own predictions and see how accurate he is. If he prefers only to bitch about other people’s predictions, he can just STFU.


15 posted on 08/22/2007 7:37:47 AM PDT by Fresh Wind
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John Lott should stick to things he knows about.


16 posted on 08/22/2007 7:44:39 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What would Jack Bauer Do?")
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Who says there aren't moron libs at Fox News. This paragraph says it all...

A more serious problem is that the National Weather Service gives away its services for free. In 2004, the National Weather Service began shelving a 1991 policy that had barred the weather agency from offering services that private industry could provide. The Weather Service also now offers much of its data on the internet for free. With an $882 million budget for 2007, the National Weather Service is certainly not free...

Uh.... our TAXES pay for this service, MORON!!! Perhaps they're not the best, but to give credit where credit is due, they were quite accurate predicting the path of Dean. I'm surprised they do all that they do on only $882 million. That's a bargain, IMHO...
21 posted on 08/22/2007 7:58:04 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Doing my part to warm up the planet... Because Bikinis Beat Burkas!)
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Does Government Weather Forecasting Endanger Lives?

How stupid. Next time there's a major hurricane or tornado outbreak or something, they can all just keep quite and see what happens; whether there's a greater loss of life with no warning than with one.

Idiots.

24 posted on 08/22/2007 8:06:23 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Turn it over to NASA with Algore in charge !!!

Problem solved.....sheeesh that was easy to fix.


26 posted on 08/22/2007 8:08:06 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (The only thing I love more than my FreeperFriends is my God, Family and Country !!!!)
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What a horrific article. Complete nonsense. Meteorology is not an exact science but great strides have been made with increasing forecast accuracy. One of the problems is that the National Weather Service covers very broad areas. Even the local offices have a lot of responsibility and a lot of ground to cover. I'd like to see anyone forecast with PINPOINT accuracy where summertime air-mass thunderstorms are going to develop. Private companies have the luxury of forecasting for a specific time/place and since they are paid to do so, they can invest time/effort into that. NWS simply cannot.

Unfortunately, these aren’t the only problems with the National Weather Service. The service has been accused in the past of withholding government aircraft reconnaissance of hurricanes for up to 11 hours before releasing the information to private companies or the public.

Since when is the government required to release such info to a private company?

I'm reminded of the following paragraph that discussed the difficulties with forecasting the weather:

Imagine a rotating sphere that is 12,800 kilometers (8000 miles) in diameter, has a bumpy surface, is surrounded by a 40-kilometer-deep mixture of different gases whose concentrations vary both spatially and over time, and is heated, along with its surrounding gases, by a nuclear reactor 150 million kilometers (93 million miles) away. Imagine also that this sphere is revolving around the nuclear reactor and that some locations are heated more during one part of the revolution and other locations are heated during another part of the revolution. And imagine that this mixture of gases continually receives inputs from the surface below, generally calmly but sometimes through violent and highly localized injections. Then, imagine that after watching the gaseous mixture, you are expected to predict its state at one location on the sphere one, two, or more days into the future. This is essentially the task encountered day by day by a weather forecaster.

31 posted on 08/22/2007 8:24:22 AM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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I’m rather neutral as to the NWS, but I think they have done a remarkable job in forecasting hurricane landfalls the last several years.
The forecast track for Dean has been lower Texas at its most northerly track since Dean was waaay out in the Antilles.

Folks don’t remember years past when landfall predictions were 24-36 hrs tops.


59 posted on 08/23/2007 2:45:59 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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