Posted on 08/19/2007 9:52:10 AM PDT by wagglebee
Yep a serial philanderer who wants to shield his deeds under the veil of "privacy." Where have we seen this before?
Wich hunt.
Witch hunt.
No, more like a slam dunk.
The inmates are now in charge of the asylum.
If he continues to be the front runner there will be no more GOP as we know it.
...but it appears this time they may have actually caught a witch.
Last time I looked, Ronald Reagan was a divorcee, had a son many assume ot be gay, and had a daughter with a drug problem who posed for Playboy, and both hated his guts.
Double standards?
Double standards?
I see it's back to bashing Reagan to make Rooty Toot seem more palatable.
“I see it’s back to bashing Reagan to make Rooty Toot seem more palatable.”
Ummm, no.
It’s a fair question, which no one seems able to answer in these parts. Why is Reagan, the Classical Liberal, with skeletons in his closet deified, and Rudy, the Classical Liberal with skeletons in his closet villified?
Answer that honestly and I’ll be more inclined to take you seriously.
P.S. I’m still holding out for Newt.
Reagan’s divorce was several decades before his run for office and he was not a serial philanderer like Rooty. Moreover, Reagan was upfront about his strained relationship with two of his children and they were on speaking terms.
Your statement that Reagan had skeletons in his closet is without basis.
And, Reagan is the benchmark for conservatism, Rooty is a textbook liberal.
Full Iowa Results:
Mitt Romney (31.0%)
Mike Huckabee (18.1%)
Sam Brownback (15.3%)
Tom Tancredo (13.7%)
Ron Paul with (9.1%)
Tommy Thompson (7.3%)
Fred Thompson (1.6%)
Rudy Giuliani (1.3%)
Duncan Hunter (1.2%)
John McCain (0.7%)
John Cox (0.3%)
I am for NEWT as well. The comments about Regan were on target, has nothing to do with RG’s potential to lead the party; most of all Rudy is a politician, an egotist and, if elected, will do what is right for America. I have not seen too many positive changes or reversal of Democratic agendas by the current “Mr. Right”, El Presidenté.
“Reagan’s divorce was several decades before his run for office...”
Oh, I see. WHEN you were divorced is the important factor, huh? I guess if Giuliani waited 30 or so years after his string of divorces, you’d vote him, huh?
“Moreover, Reagan was upfront about his strained relationship with two of his children and they were on speaking terms.”
Irrelevant.
“Your statement that Reagan had skeletons in his closet is without basis.”
That (some of)his children hated his guts, one posed nude while he was in office, and that he divorced Jane Wyman are all facts that can be disputed?
“And, Reagan is the benchmark for conservatism, Rooty is a textbook liberal.”
Ummm, no. Reagan was a Classical Liberal who held some socially conservative views. Learn what “liberal” and “conservative” really mean, before you continue to use them incorrectly in defense of ridiculous arguments, please. Giuliani is a Classical Liberal who holds some socially-conservative views -— do your homework.
What you really mean to say is that Reagan promised you a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion and poldged to put prayer back in the schools, and THAT is why he’s the “benchmark” for “conservatives”.
Reagan parted on good terms with Jane Wyman. And divorce is the least of the reasons why I wouldn't vote for Rooty.
That (some of)his children hated his guts, one posed nude while he was in office, and that he divorced Jane Wyman are all facts that can be disputed?
None of Reagan's children EVER said they "hated his guts." Moreover, these aren't "skeletons" they were everyday knowledge.
Ummm, no. Reagan was a Classical Liberal who held some socially conservative views. Learn what “liberal” and “conservative” really mean, before you continue to use them incorrectly in defense of ridiculous arguments, please.
No, you learn what conservatism is before talking about an 18th Century definition of liberalism.
Giuliani is a Classical Liberal who holds some socially-conservative views
No, Rooty is a hardcore leftist liberal who holds NO socially conservative positions.
What you really mean to say is that Reagan promised you a Constitutional Amendment banning abortion and poldged to put prayer back in the schools, and THAT is why he’s the “benchmark” for “conservatives”.
Is this another way of saying that conservatives have "had their feet on the neck" of the GOP for too long?
Reagan never cheated on his wives or dressed in drag. Jane Wyman initiated the divorce not him.
DIVORCE is not the issue, it's the very public serial adultery, in Gracie Mansion with the current wife and children still living there. it is mindboggling to me that you need the distinction drawn for you, when the situations are not remotely analogous.
I really thought the Rooty Rooters were done bashing Reagan to make Rooty Toot seem conservative.
“And divorce is the least of the reasons why I wouldn’t vote for Rooty.”
No, but it made your top three. As for REagan and Jane Wyman being the best of friends afterwards, irrelevant.
Either divorce is wrong, in your opinion, or it isn’t. The number of divorces and the terms under which they were consummated make no difference. If you feel divorce is a character issue, then apply the question fairly.
“Moreover, these aren’t “skeletons” they were everyday knowledge.”
I guess so long as your dirty laundry is all aired publicly, no matter how sordid, it makes everything okay? I’ll remmber that the next time someone posts a picture of Giuliani in drag. The double standard continues.
“No, you learn what conservatism is before talking about an 18th Century definition of liberalism.”
The 18th century definition is far superior to yours (confused as it is). Without it (the 18th century conception of Liberalism), there would not have been a United States of America. With yours, there will be a Christian Saudi Arabia.
“No, Rooty is a hardcore leftist liberal who holds NO socially conservative positions.”
Yep. just what I thought. All about God, Guns and Gays. See my Christian Saudi Arabia crack above.
“Is this another way of saying that conservatives have “had their feet on the neck” of the GOP for too long?”
I would have thought that was easily discernible to even the dimmest bulb, but it is nice of you to admit it.
Support for homosexual marriages and rights, abortion, and gun control are hardly views of Classical liberalism. They're not even libertarian. These are socialist positions.
You've been a poster here since December of 2000 and apparently missed the gauntlet thrown down by JimRob back in April. Giuliani is an authoritarian socialist. Even I supported this POS before I had the sense to wake up. Perhaps you should too.
because his supporters don’t see Rudy’s adultery as a problem, they can’t distinguish it from RR’s unsolicited divorce, and they just glom it all together as one huge MORAL EQUIVALENCE. anyone can end up with kids that don’t speak to them, for any variety of reasons. i certainly don’t hold that against rudy, other than it may very well be explained, in this instance, by the humiliating way he went about hauling his mistress into Gracie mansion while attempting to evict them and their mother.
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