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To: LibWhacker

Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?


37 posted on 08/16/2007 10:25:04 AM PDT by 1L
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To: 1L

Relativity was devised to explain some things about electromagnetic radiation. It explains nothing about things that aren’t photons or photon related. Cerenkov radiation is an example of something of possible interest.


48 posted on 08/16/2007 10:28:30 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: 1L

E=MC^2......


62 posted on 08/16/2007 10:31:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (All I know about Minnesota, I learned from Garrison Keilor..................)
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To: 1L
Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?

Michelson–Morley.
124 posted on 08/16/2007 10:47:58 AM PDT by caveat emptor
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To: 1L
Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?

To make the math work. ;)

210 posted on 08/16/2007 11:34:02 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: 1L

“Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?”

I always questioned that myself. The answer that I was told back in college was that light is the fastest thing known and the only thing known not to be subject to relative motion.

Quick example: You are traveling on a train going 60 MPH and you toss a ball to your friend sitting a few feet in front of you. To you and your freind (both sitting on the train) the ball is going 20 MPH (from your toss). To some-one sitting next to the tracks outside the train to ball is traveling at 80 MPH.... the train imparts it’s relative motion (60 MPH) to the ball. This behavior seems to hold true for pretty much every object they’ve been able to test.... except light, which is the fastest thing ever observed. Light appears to always travel at a constant speed regardless of the speed of the object that generates it.

That’s my dime store explanation of it. Note I’m not a scientist (nor was I even a science major).... so if the explanation is off a bit some-one please feel free to beat me with a rubber chicken.

The thing I always wondered, was why people always assumed the phenominom was due to some sort of universal law....rather then just some funky quality of light itself.


222 posted on 08/16/2007 11:43:08 AM PDT by Grumpy_Mel (Humans are resources - Soilent Green is People!)
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To: 1L
Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?

Not a dumb question, but it's not practical to answer it here. Einstein's General Theory of Relativity implies this (his earlier, Special Theory of Relativity didn't go far enough to be definitive).

Of course, if one actually understands the "General Theory", it still leaves a tiny amount of room for doubt, since it's unlikely we have final and complete understanding on this subject.

224 posted on 08/16/2007 11:44:27 AM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 1L
Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?

Not a dumb question at all. Light is what people were studying when they discovered the strange things that happen at high speeds. Nature seems to have a fundamental maximum speed, and light travels at that speed (or very, very close to it).
236 posted on 08/16/2007 12:11:53 PM PDT by xenophiles
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To: 1L
Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?

My guess is that it causes problems with the math.

How do you deal with negative/infinite frequencies (which implies negative time) in the real world . The math works better when velocities don't exceed c.

e.g.


245 posted on 08/16/2007 12:50:34 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (NY Times: "fake but accurate")
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To: 1L

“Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?”

It’s is partially due to this equation...

a = F/m (more commonly seen as F=ma)

...and partially due to this equation...

m = m0/sqrt(1 - v^2/c^2)

That’s mass dilation.

So, as an object accelerates close to the speed of light, it gains mass. The more mass it gains, the more energy is required to accelerate the object. If v=c in the second equation, then mass is infinite. Any finite number over infinity is zero, so the acceleration is zero. That is, you can’t go any faster.

Theoretically.

(I believe this can be broken.)


247 posted on 08/16/2007 12:53:01 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: 1L
"Dumb question alert: why is the speed of LIGHT specifically supposedly the ceiling on speed?"

While you are at it, why not ask the other question: Does light ever slow down and stop? ;o)

297 posted on 08/16/2007 5:04:42 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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