Posted on 08/14/2007 6:26:56 PM PDT by RedRover
Edited on 08/15/2007 2:21:21 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
August 14, 2007 -- Former Marine Corps Sergeant Jose Nazario may face charges of conspiracy to commit murder in Federal District Court in Los Angeles, California for killing eight Iraqi prisoners of war in Fallujah, Iraq in November 2004. Nazario was a probationary patrolman on the Riverside Police Department when the Naval Criminal Investigative Service informed his superiors the former infantryman was a suspect in the alleged murders. He was subsequently fired from his job.
Nazario was a squad leader in Kilo Company, 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines at Fallujah. He was implicated in the shooting of eight Iraqis as the result of statements made by former Corporal Ryan Weemer, a member of his squad. Both men belonged to 3rd Squad, Third Plt., Kilo Co. Weemer was a fire team leader under Nazario’s command. Weemer revealed the murders during a polygraph test administered by the Secret Service for its job application process, he said.
The Secret Service subsequently passed on Weemer’s allegations to NCIS, who initiated an investigation. Since then several former and at least one active duty Marine have reported being interviewed by NCIS Special Agents. Several of the Marines who spoke on the condition of anonymity said they were interviewed by S.A. Mark Fox. One former Marine Fox interviewed said the NCIS special agent told him they were trying to identify the Marine or Marines who allegedly gave an order to shoot the prisoners.
Two Marines from the same platoon face charges of multiple murder for the incident at Haditha a year after events at Fallujah unfolded. Lance Corporal Stephen Tatum and SSgt Frank Wuterich are charged with participating in the murders of 15 Iraqi civilians following an ambush of their squad at Haditha a year ago.
Two Marines charged in the same incident have already been exonerated for lack of evidence in that case. LCpl Justin Sharratt and Capt. Randy Stone have been cleared of all the charges by Lt Gen J. N. Mattis, the convening authority in the Haditha investigation.
Numerous attorneys who have been apprised of the allegations initially leveled by Weemer and filed by NCIS dismissed them as pointless. They said that without corroborating witnesses, physical evidence, a crime scene, or the identity of victims, the case would be impossible to prosecute, they opined.
Arraignment Thursday
Nazario reportedly will be arraigned Thursday before a U.S. Magistrate at the U.S. District Court in Los Angeles, California, sources close to the case said. Nazario is from nearby Riverside. Currently the charges against Nazario are sealed. One source said the NCIS was trying to compel Nazario to make a deal in order to escape prosecution. Nazario reportedly refused to cooperate. If he doesn’t cooperate the indictment will be unsealed and Nazario will be charged on Thursday, the source said.
NCIS spokesman Ed Buice said that “any comment regarding this case will need to come from the US Attorney's Office in Los Angeles.”
Thom Mrozek, the Public Affairs Officer for the U.S. Attorney's Office of the Central District of California, said he could not comment on the case in “any way, shape or form.”
“We are not in a position to make any comment on this. There is no public record of this right now, so no comment.”
Civilian court
The investigation was conducted and the complaint filed by the NCIS. The agency is the investigative arm of the United States Navy and has both military and civilian jurisdiction in criminal cases involving sailors and Marines. Their action is not unprecedented, court records show. Former service members charged with crimes that occurred while on active duty can be tried in civilian courts.
A former Army private faces rape and murder charges in federal District Court in Paducah, Kentucky after being discharged from active duty. Former Pfc. Steven D Greene allegedly raped and murdered a 14-year old Iraqi girl and her family after a drinking binge. Several of Greene’s former squad mates have already been convicted and sentenced in the case Greene pleaded not guilty before a federal magistrate and is awaiting trial. Squad member Pfc. Jesse Spielman was convicted and sentenced to 110 years in prison and three other soldiers who pleaded guilty under agreements with prosecutors received sentences ranging from five to 100 years.
Nazario’s case is considerably different. He was fighting in the heat of close combat when he allegedly conspired to kill the suspected enemy combatants. It is not clear without reading the secret indictment who he conspired with. Two or three days after the alleged shooting Nazario would be fighting at the famous Hell House incident, where two 3/1 Marines earned the Navy Cross in a single engagement.
Nazario reportedly denied any knowledge of the allegations. So far, Weemer is the only witness or evidence acknowledged by the government. He was named by NCIS agents while conducting their interviews as the original source of the allegations, former Marines said.
Critics of NCIS investigatory tactics are already claiming NCIS is bringing the charges to discredit Marines who might be witnesses in any courts-martial against members of 3/1 facing charges for murder and malfeasance in Haditha. NCIS spokesman Ed Buice has repeatedly declined to comment on the investigation, why it was ordered, or by whom.
“Combat and armchair quarterbacking don’t mix”
Weemer went into seclusion two months ago after retaining Cincinnati, Ohio attorney Paul L. Hackett after press reports revealed he had confessed to witnessing the alleged murders at Fallujah. In the past, Hackett said his client had never talked with NCIS investigators.
Hackett also said he had never met Nazario and was unfamiliar with his case, emphasizing he was unaware that charges had been leveled against anyone who fought at Fallujah. He declined to comment on Weemer’s role – if any - in Nazario’s impending indictment. Hackett is a former combat Marine who served at Fallujah during the vicious campaign there in 2004. He later ran for a Congressional seat in his hometown as a Democrat and lost.
“Combat and armchair quarterbacking don’t mix,” Hackett said Tuesday during a telephone interview from his Cincinnati law office. “Nobody knows what these men go through. I see the Weemers, and Nazarios, and Wolfs, and Kimbers,” naming other 3/1 Marines he has counseled. “They are all true heroes. They deserve to be allowed to come home and resume their lives without being molested.”
James Kimber, age 34, was a Captain in India Company 3/1 who was removed from command with his commanding officer Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey R. Chessani and Captain Luke McConnell. Kimber was nominated for a Bronze Star for valor in Haditha, was relieved of command of India Company, 3/1 when marines under his command used profanity and criticized the performance of Iraqi security services during an interview with Britain’s Sky News TV, according to Hackett. Francis Wolf is a former Marine infantry sergeant and brilliant combat Marine who fought gallantly at Fallujah and Haditha. He was granted immunity to testify in the Haditha case and spoke glowingly of Chessani and the other Marines in 3/1 accused of misconduct.
More than two years ago Weemer revealed to government investigators that he had witnessed the “wrongful deaths” during combat operations in Fallujah of Nov 10 or 11, 2004 after being ordered by unidentified senior Marines to kill the captives. The eight Iraqis, dressed in so-called “track suits” frequently worn by the insurgents fighting in Fallujah, were captured along “Phase Line Henry” during heavy combat.
According to Weemer’s eyewitness account, the insurgent suspects had just fled from an area where other Marines had encountered fierce resistance. The insurgents, knowing the Marines’ Rules of Engagement prevented them shooting the fleeing men when unarmed, frequently ran from one strong point to another to take up hidden arms and resume the fight, Weemer said.
Weemer claimed during an interview for a book about Fallujah in 2006 that after the men were captured they were held under guard for a brief period before the Marines were ordered to move on. When his leader – whom Weemer did not identify – asked for instruction regarding their prisoner’s disposition, a cryptic voice responded, “They are still alive?” Weemer said the leader of their unit took that to mean “kill them” and the Iraqi prisoners were subsequently executed.
Weemer was unavailable Tuesday for comment. Hackett said Weemer is going to school in Kentucky and will have no comment.
“I have him in a box,” Hackett said, “and I intend to keep him there. He doesn’t need to be making any comments.”
Hackett also declined comment about the implications of Nazario’s reported predicament. He preferred describing Weemer and all the other Marines who fought at Fallujah as “heroes.” Hackett has represented four Marines who were either at Fallujah, Haditha, or both, he said.
According to sources, Weemer said in an affidavit filed with the NCIS complaint that Nazario took eight captured Iraqi men into another room of a house they were occupying and shot them dead. Weemer reportedly said he did not see the killings and did not participate in them.
Numerous Marines who were at Fallujah have denied knowing anything about the allegations Weemer made two years. Several of the same Marines have subsequently dismissed Weemer’s allegations to NCIS investigators as a total fabrication, they said. Others have refused to talk to them at all.
One Marine interviewed by Special Agent Fox last spring said he was told NCIS “had” to conduct the investigation “to protect the honor of the Marine Corps or America or something like that.” He said Fox wanted to know his squad’s disposition, who was present, and whether he ever heard anything about the alleged killings.
Several former Marines who were interviewed claimed an NCIS agent who contacted them raised the specter of recall to active duty if they failed to cooperate. Their claims are corroborated by one attorney representing a former Marine who said a Marine Corps prosecutor raised the possibility of recall to his client in his presence.
Thanks, Red. It’s still a career ender for him in law enforcement no matter the outcome. It’s very sad.
I think you know the terrain, jaz. Is Riverside a suburb of LA?
In my days down there it wasn’t considered a suburb, it’s 50 or so miles due east of LA. The way things have built up down there now it may be considered a suburb, it’s practically wall to wall homes and businesses in between. I grew up about halfway between the two.
Nazario will make an appearance in US District Court for Central CA tomorrow morning.
He'll have two attorneys appearing. A guy named Emery Ledger and Doug Applegate.
Applegate works for Kevin Barry McDermott, Esq. McDermott represents Capt McConnell in the Haditha case. McDermott won't be there because he has to go to San Francisco but Applegate is his partner.
Nazario is being brought up on charges on an information, which calls for an arraignment within 30 days. Informations usually suggest the evidence is weak and not enough to go to the GJ, but not talking to the US Atty makes it hard to be sure.
Nat will be writing more.
Thanks for the update, Red. I’m very happy to see that Navario is well represented. Would like to see the US Prosecutors and the NCIS raked over the coals if these charges are dismissed.
That was an extreme update. Thanks.
Hoping they can put a screeching halt to it.
So, has any other press picked this up yet? They hadn’t, that I could tell, a little earlier in the day. Any idea if any press is notified of the hearing tomorrow? What can we do? A new article so at least it has a few hits on Google? BTW, thanks for the updates, Red.
Thanks Red. Hopefully the SECNAV will acknowledge that the NCIS had better shape up. He surely has the power to demand they provide a more balanced and profesional service. And political agendas should not be an acceptable part of their job descriptions.
Actually, Tim King is a Veteran of the United States Marine Corps. ‘Though we did not happen to meet at the time, he and I served on the same base during the same period of time. He’s bit more liberal than I prefer, but he is a Marine.
Tim King has also received the research I’ve done on this and related issues: part of which I’ve offered to share with Freepers in other threads (mostly) to no avail and to no small amount of underserved and irrational and unsupportable criticism.
I sent Tim King the article you’ve referenced here, Dave. He took it from there and contacted The War Chronicles. The rest, as they say, is history.
On it’s way to Mr. King’s desk are copies of everything that has been assembled by Tim Harrington and Walter Fitzpatrick over the course of their investigations. Walter and Tim H. have also received everything I’ve researched over the last two years regarding this and related issues. This material also well matches other stories regarding certain anomalies with JAG and the NCIS that Tim King has reported on during the course of his career as a journalist.
Now.
I haven’t done it all, boys and girls...but I’ve done my fair share. ...and if you didn’t know about it, don’t like it - or don’t want to believe it - in spite of the facts and evidence to the contrary - that simply isn’t my problem.
Look in the mirror, do your own research...and think about it.
I agree, Marine Uncle. This is getting “unseemly” as they say in polite circles. I don’t know if placating the Maliki gov’t was an influence to begin with, but it has gone way further than needed at this point. Most Americans just want their military personnel given the benefit of the doubt in a time of war dealing with this type of enemy. Again, thanks for your mail. It said a lot!
Your friend has called me far worse.
I’m sure “pukesville” is a slip of the keyboard. As far as boys and girls, I’m the only Girl here that I know of. (that’s an attempt at light humor)
Thanks for passing this info. along to other media. I’m sure Marine Jose Nazario will be appreciative of getting some attention toward his current plight. It is a shame that these guys fought in a battle, such as Fallujah, and are being second guessed. They fought for survival, they fought for each other, they fought because we asked them to fight. I cannot imagine, no matter what I read, what that was like.
Let it go, rwsteel. If you want more input on the other threads, explain them more. I’m open. The last stuff about Delaitte did not make a lot of sense to me. Maybe a little more explanation is warranted for those of us who aren’t as involved as you are.
Re. Redrover. He’s done an immense at job not only disseminating info about all the affected Marines, but helping to make the news happen. He’s been tireless.
Freepers challenge each other about their ideas. That’s a hallmark of this forum. It can be a pain in the neck sometimes, but it’s the rigor of the debate that sharpens ideas and it’s how progress is made.
On the other hand, you have viciously attacked me on this forum multiple times. I’m still astonished by the sheer senselessness of it. There are few enough people already who care about any of these issues. Why you’d choose to be so destructive is something I’ll never understand.
Like you, I want justice for the Marines and soldiers. If you help bring it about, you’ll deserve the thanks of men and women who only want to serve their country.
But maybe you could have accomplished far more if you didn’t act like such a mean spirited prick. It just wasn’t ever necessary.
STOP, please.
I’ve never done this before so please bear with me... but pukesville got my attention. What is that all about?
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