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Marco Polo discovered America 200 years before Colombus, according to map
AFP via translation ^ | August 9, 2007

Posted on 08/09/2007 3:28:45 AM PDT by HAL9000

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To: RightWhale

Didn’t bother Solomon. Besides, he had “Solomon’s Ring” and could tell the mosquitos to go elsewhere!


81 posted on 08/10/2007 4:51:13 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: HAL9000

Chinese writing on the map in a subsequent pot indicates the Chinese found America first - of course after the Vikings, American Indians and the predecessors, the Ainu types found on the West Coast.


82 posted on 08/10/2007 5:56:04 PM PDT by Mumbles (Because we disagree doesn't make you or me right. Treat each other with respect.)
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To: HAL9000

Marco Polo, who forever spoken in the relation about his voyages of any discovered of ground in the zone of Alaska, said to his friends on his bed of dead: “I did not write half of what I saw”, Thierry Secretan recalls.

Amazing! Astounding! Mr. Secretan must be hundreds of years old, something spooky about this.

Bed of Dead Bump.


83 posted on 08/10/2007 6:02:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Paisan

I’m kind of partial to Vespucciland, myself.


84 posted on 08/10/2007 6:06:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: bert

Thanks bert, I needed a good hearty laugh. I practiced this ritual many times with the children at the pool when I would take my son for a neighborhood swim!


85 posted on 08/10/2007 6:08:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Was there a cat sitting on his bed?

Oscar strikes again


86 posted on 08/10/2007 6:43:33 PM PDT by Taffini (Mr. Pippin and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: HAL9000

No, Polo discovered a map showing the Aleutian Islands, parts of Alaska, and the Bering Straight.


87 posted on 08/10/2007 6:50:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Taffini

Chuckle.


88 posted on 08/10/2007 7:40:57 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (Say Cheese.)
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To: bmwcyle; dfwgator

LOL! As I was scrolling through this thread I was wondering how long before this would surface...21 & 24...not bad guys!


89 posted on 08/10/2007 7:55:00 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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To: HAL9000

See here :

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/06/24/features/chinam.php

Did Chinese beat out Columbus?
Singapore exhibit celebrates travels of an early explorer
By Sonia Kolesnikov-JessopPublished: SATURDAY, JUNE 25, 2005

SINGAPORE: Did Chinese sailors really discover America before Columbus? A new exhibition sets the scene, presenting new evidence that lends support to the assumptions made in “1421: The Year China Discovered America” by Gavin Menzies.

“1421: The Year China Sailed the World,” in Singapore in a special tent near the Esplanade (until Sept. 11), is primarily a celebration of Admiral Zheng He’s seven maritime expeditions between 1405 and 1423. With a fleet of 317 ships and 28,000 men, Zheng He is generally acknowledged as one of the great naval explorers, but how far he actually went remains a matter of dispute.

With original artifacts, videos and interactive exhibits, “1421” aims to take visitors through Zheng He’s life story, setting the historical and economic context of his voyages. Against this factual background, Menzies’s theories are presented, along with new evidence, mainly maps, backing his claims.

The exhibition starts in Hunnan (China) in 1382, with a narrative space giving some background on Zheng He’s youth. Zheng, a Chinese Muslim, was captured as a child in wartime by the Ming army and made a eunuch to serve at court. He became a scholar and a trusted adviser to the third Ming emperor, Zhu Di, who sent him on a mission to “proceed all the way to the ends of the earth to collect tribute from the barbarians beyond the seas.”

When the giant fleet returned in 1423, however, the emperor had fallen. With that change of leadership, China began a policy of isolationism that would last hundreds of years. The large ships were left to rot at their moorings, and most of the records of the great journeys were destroyed (though some argue the records still exist).

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http://www.asianpacificpost.com/portal2/ff8080810c22f24f010c25dd86b10001.do.html

More evidence has been unearthed which suggests that Chinese Ming dynasty explorer Zheng He might have founded America decades before Christopher Columbus did in the late 15th century.

A seven-centimetre-wide brass medal, complete with Ming dynasty inscriptions and dug up kilometres inland from the North Carolina coast, was recently unveiled for the first time.

This followed the unveiling of a map six months ago by Beijing lawyer Liu Gang, which he claimed is a copy of an A.D. 1418 original drawn up by Chinese explorers.

The six-Chinese-character inscription, “Da Ming Xuan De Wei Ci,” on the medal translates into “Awarded by Xuan De of Great Ming.” It refers to the period between 1426 and 1435, the reign of Emperor Xuan Zong - long before Columbus landed in the New World in 1492.

This, claimed the medal’s owner Lee Siu Leung, ties in with the fact that Xuan Zong had, in 1430, commissioned Admiral Zheng to embark on his last voyage to announce his accession to the throne to foreign nations.

“Such a medal represented the highest authority of the emperor and was only delivered by a diplomat like Zheng He or his deputy,” the biochemist and former associate director of the Hong Kong Institute of Biotechnology told media.

He said he bought the medal from “someone who lived in the area where it was found.”

He would not reveal the cost, saying only that he paid much less than the C$560 Liu did for his map.

Ironically, Lee lives in Columbus, Ohio - named after the founder of America. “I do not think they would rename the place ‘Zheng He’,” he quipped.

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Here’s more :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2349929.stm

Experts hope to emulate Chinese Columbus

Plans are afoot to try and emulate the travels of a Chinese navigator who is believed to have discovered America more than 70 years before Christopher Columbus.

Mr Menzies book rewrites history as we know it

Admiral Zheng He is extremely well known in China, where he is considered one of the pioneers of marine exploration.

But he is virtually unknown in the West, where it is widely considered that Columbus discovered the “New World” first in 1492, although many Scandinavian historians claim the Vikings beat him by nearly 500 years.

Gavin Menzies, a retired British submarine commander who is bringing out a book on Zhang He next month, says many academics not just in China but also on the West Coast of the US believe he found North America and Australia during a two-year odyssey which began in 1421.

Mr Menzies told BBC News Online: “It’s virtually impossible to still argue that Columbus discovered America, that Cook found Australia or that Magellan was the first to circumnavigate the world. You have to be a crank nowadays to believe

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If scholars are serious and the above evidences pass muster,
we just might have to give the Chinese some credit for discovering American ahead of Columbus.


90 posted on 08/10/2007 8:07:56 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: swain_forkbeard
But I’m really interested in where that estimate of the population of pre-Columbian N. America came from and how it was calculated.

I think the estimated population was derived from looking at known settlements and artifacts and from that extrapolating a population figure. For incidence, Archaeologists who have studied Mesa Verde have a pretty good idea of how many folks inhabited it by virtue of adding up the available square footage of living space and how it was built and used, plus the amount of artifacts that were discovered when it was initially found. Similarly, most of the indigenous settlements in SE Tennessee were mapped and cataloged prior to the construction of the TVA dam system. From that, population estimates are derived.

91 posted on 08/11/2007 6:59:14 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Made in China: Treat those three words like a warning label)
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To: muawiyah

Solomon was smart enough to send somebody to California. He was busy with more immediate tasks.


92 posted on 08/11/2007 7:32:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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