Join me in praying that we are NOT a modern Rome. And pray that modern technology has not permitted us to compress their 2,000 year slide into 300 but will provide the means by which we can halt it.
The United States is going to eventually break up, that is an inevitability because it has never been a nation in the true sense of the word. It’s actually been more like 9 nations contained within national borders which paid little to no matter to arbitrarily set state borders.
A secular nation ought not decline into inhumanity, but it always does.
If there is a historical parallel to America’s situation today, it is more likely Rome in the 1st Century B.C., during which their ancient Republic gave over to Caesarism and its successor, Imperialism.
“What does this have to do with immigration? Fredo Arias-King, foreign policy adviser to former Mexican president Vicente Fox, wrote last year of a visit he and a delegation made to Washington in 2000. They met with 80 congressional lawmakers, nearly all of whom – Republicans and Democrats – openly welcomed immigration because, in his view, they saw Mexicans as potential dependents on the state and therefore loyal voters. The advance into the U.S. of the client-patron model of governance, which has helped stagnate Mexico, bothered Mr. Arias-King greatly.”
The problem is the human heart. Sir Tyler nailed it when, over 200 years ago, he wrote:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can exist only until voters discover that they can vote themselves largesses from the public treasury. From that time on, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.IMHO, we are in the "from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency" stage. Much of the Katrina mess was caused by apathy. And look at all the government entitlement programs creating dependency (being a retired Soc Sec recipient, can I still complain? :). And yet Congress is raring to go to add more (DREAM act, SCHIP, etc.)."The average age of the world's great civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance; from abundance to selfishness; from selfishness to complacency; from complacency to apathy; from apathy to dependency; from dependency back again to bondage."
Mexican criminals have seized portions of the United States southern border and conduct their criminals activities with impunity.
“Stop treating government as a necessary evil.” This is a solution? I would say stop treating government as a personal fiefdom.
Uncontrolled immigration. This is a key to Rome’s collapse. The Goths were allowed into the Empire as manual laborers. They killed Emperor Valens in battle at Adrianople in 378 A.D. and sacked Rome in 410 A.D.
The United States is not an empire. We are more akin to Republican Rome. We should look at why Republican Rome fell. Most of these historians of antiquity were British. They relate more to the Empire. Personal corruption started with absolutism. Read Suetonius’ The Twelve Caesars.
“Are we Rome?”
Better question: Is Rod Dreher a jerk?
I contend that once the political power of the ruling patrician class was neutralized by Augustus, they turned more towards the morally bankrupt lifesyles we think of when we picture the Roman Empire. Is there a parallel to modern US politics there?
When Rome fell, it sank into the depths of its own decadence and the horrors of the Dark Ages, but no great predatory power seized and subjugated the people who were foolish enough to let this happen.
Not so with the West today! Predators hover over the Western World right now--salivating over the prospects of vanquishing, devouring, and destroying its people.
Meanwhile, Leftists of the West, suffused with decay ripened by prosperity, revel in self-indulgence, including the indulgence of their petty vanities and foolish causes, blind to their own decadence, as their enemies become ever bolder and more assured of success in destroying them.
Middle America is the last great bastion of strength, health, and ascendancy in the Western World--the last great bastion of Western Civilization and the American Dream of universal liberty, justice, and prosperity for all the people of the world. The decadent Left is the greatest threat to all this--and the greatest asset to the enemies of the American Left and Western Civilization.
The Left is decadence. The "Mainstream Newsmedia" is its propaganda machine. The Democrat Party is its political machine.
Rome had its own barbarian horde invasion. We went to the beach yesterday and saw how the barbarian invasion of America has reached into every corner of this nation. The beach from my youth is gone. This may as well be a slum beach in Mexico or Honduras.
“Are We Rome?”
No, your Dallas.... I know it is a sh!tty little town, smack dab in the middle of nowhere... perpetually stuck with bad weather and a snobby class from Highland Park that would make a Malibu Prude puke.... you are not Rome... that is just the stink of Deep Elem you smell.
Look at history. In the last 10 Presidential terms, Republicans have held 7. Also remember from 1900-1950 the top three parties were Reps, Dems, and socialists.
yes, we are Rome. we are falling. we will not stand.
Rome fell because yhe Romans brought in ethnically incompatible workers from all over the empire to ‘do the jobs that the Romans did not want too’. The empire fell because the society came to be dominated by a very different people to those who formed the Republic. This is very similar to what is happenning in the modern West, including America.
Rome fell because yhe Romans brought in ethnically incompatible workers from all over the empire to ‘do the jobs that the Romans did not want too’. The empire fell because the society came to be dominated by a very different people to those who formed the Republic. This is very similar to what is happenning in the modern West, including America.
Rome fell because yhe Romans brought in ethnically incompatible workers from all over the empire to ‘do the jobs that the Romans did not want too’. The empire fell because the society came to be dominated by a very different people to those who formed the Republic. This is very similar to what is happenning in the modern West, including America.
Rome did not fall. They changed the venue. Rome is still here.
With all the ABORTIONS and PORNOGRAPHY, especially CHILD PORNOGRAPHY and GAY PRIDE and RIGHTS, we seem almost as bad as Sodom and Gomorrah.