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McCain changes course on immigration
Yahoo News ^ | August 2, 2007 | Jennifer Talhelm

Posted on 08/02/2007 4:48:28 PM PDT by Tarantulas

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To: Tarantulas

Get the better legislation passed...but remember his efforts at the earlier travesty and run him out of office afterwards...and Graham too.


81 posted on 08/03/2007 12:00:20 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head
At least we’ve turned one of the RINO’s who have supported Dem causes in the past.

I’d say that’s an accomplishment we can be proud of!

82 posted on 08/03/2007 12:03:07 AM PDT by airborne (ATTENTION PA FREEPERS !! https://contribute.gohunter08.com/contribute.asp)
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To: Tarantulas
...on second thought, after reading what this really is (travesty light), forget it. Just get all of those out of office who backed any of this garbage and then pass something entirely bereft of any z visa or other mechanism that in any way shape or form legalizes and legitimizes those who have broken our laws, builds the fence, makes illegal entry criminal and treats as such, and cracks down on all who violate our immigration laws, be they illegal aliens or employers here.
83 posted on 08/03/2007 12:03:59 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: airborne
See my post 83. I do not think they turned at all. This new stull just doesn't allow for citizenship, but it still legalizes them as I understand it. They are up to their same old tricks.

We need a bill that gets all of the enforcement and all of the fences, etc. without ANY form of legitmizing.

They have already made it clear, this bunch, that they have no intent to spend monies earmarked for fenceing and enforcement even if they do pass a law, because they never followed the law that was passed last year.

Route the vipers out.

84 posted on 08/03/2007 12:07:33 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not Free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

There really isn’t enough information in the story to be certain.

You are right that we need to keep an eye on these guys so they don’t try to piece meal something through.


85 posted on 08/03/2007 12:13:30 AM PDT by airborne (ATTENTION PA FREEPERS !! https://contribute.gohunter08.com/contribute.asp)
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To: Tarantulas

Is he still running for something?


86 posted on 08/03/2007 12:15:41 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Tarantulas

Geez like a leaf on the breeze.....way to McPain...NOT!


87 posted on 08/03/2007 12:18:23 AM PDT by Niteflyr ("If you’re drawing flak, you know you're over the target".)
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To: airborne
You are right that we need to keep an eye on these guys so they don’t try to piece meal something through.

I wouldn't put it past them to slip amnesty into some budget bill, burried in paragraph 12 on page 10,476 of the bill.

88 posted on 08/03/2007 12:34:32 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Tarantulas

This is BS and a cover for incrementally advancing the original agenda, IMHO. Two days ago I received a letter from McCain dated July 17th. It has the same old BS in it about not being able to deport immigrants, not being able to control our borders with existing laws, etc. He hasn’t changed his mind, he’s just trying another tactic.


89 posted on 08/03/2007 4:42:09 AM PDT by bcsco ("The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Memo to McPain: To quote that Carole King song from back in 1971: “Its too late, bayybe, now it’s too late.....”

Kerry is a much better flip-flopper. Kerry’s had more practice.


90 posted on 08/03/2007 4:49:05 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08!)
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To: Tarantulas

I can imagine a question about this flip flop will come up this Sunday in the debate.

And it will surely be in Rush’s stack of stuff today.


91 posted on 08/03/2007 4:55:47 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (I like Rodney Carrington's recipe for World Peace.)
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To: Tarantulas
McCain's co-sponsors include Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and .....

Those two should get a room.

92 posted on 08/03/2007 5:33:47 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Tarantulas

McPain is a stubborn child. He didn’t change his mind. He’s cutting his amnesty bill into smaller pieces and moving them around to pass the parts individually embedded in obscure bills.

Mcpain, go fly a Kyl!


93 posted on 08/03/2007 6:07:04 AM PDT by melancholy (Quiz: name one country, other than the USA, that doesn't control its borders.)
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To: Tarantulas; All

If McCain, Kyl and Graham were really serious about this they would endorse a GOOD enforcement bill sitting in the Senate!

Common Sense ‘ENFORCE ACT’ introduced By Sen. Inhofe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837422/posts

THIS is ‘comprehensive reform’!

Major Provisions in Inhofe’s ENFORCE Act:

· Establishes the National Border Neighborhood Watch (NBNW) Program allowing retired law enforcement officers to assist Border Patrol agents by reporting illegal border crossings.

· Makes unlawful-presence in the United States a felony.

· Establishes an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

· Authorizes funding for online immigration training for state and local law enforcement officers.

· **** Eliminates the practice of granting automatic U.S. citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants in an effort to reduce ‘anchor babies.’******

· Establishes an independent verification system for Social Security numbers; also mandates that immigrant’s Social Security numbers expire when visa runs out.

· Establishes electronic birth & death registries to fight fraudulent Social Security cards

· Helps reduce Individual Taxpayer Identification Number abuse.

· Empowers state & local law enforcement to carryout immigration laws (but does not make it mandatory).

· Establishes penalties for most flagrant employer tax violations—i.e. if an employer willfully files incorrect tax returns, they will be assessed the maximum penalties available.

· Makes it illegal to operate day laborer centers for illegal aliens and to give them unemployment assistance.

· Eliminates in-state tuition benefits for illegal aliens.
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94 posted on 08/03/2007 9:01:00 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: Tarantulas

LOL The guy is a two faced liar when it comes to immigration. I don’t believe anything the jackass says. He sponsors lots of bad legislation such as anti torture bills and campaign finance reform.

McCain should retire. Let some new young blood in the Senate


95 posted on 08/03/2007 11:45:52 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Tarantulas

he weely weely weely wants to be President


96 posted on 08/03/2007 11:48:52 AM PDT by IonInsights (T)
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To: Cementjungle

Now now, don’t exaggerate...that bill was only 3,000 pages of dense legalize that all our representatives surely took the time to comprehend and cogitate on.

NOT!


97 posted on 08/03/2007 2:49:14 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: AmericanInTokyo
You must work on the “inside” (or know people who DO). Amazing^—and correct—read of the serious situation here about our national security having been compromised.

If a 45-year old HS grad who schleps at car-washes for a living can parse these developments while the powered, monied and privileged can not I fear for our nation's future. No - credit must be given - the old, smelly fella who collects aluminum cans at our sites gave me the skinny (LOL!).

Seriously though, McCain (aka the Manchurian Incumbent) will, as a few posters pointed out, continue to embed his agenda piecemeal into other bills over time...a trick he picked up from his friend Ted Kennedy. That's how Kennedy disabled the enforcement measures in the 1986 Immigration Reform Act over time.

98 posted on 08/03/2007 3:06:45 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Git the rope)
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To: Tarantulas

No path to citizenship, ever, should be his campaign slogan if he wants to keep his campaign going until this november.


99 posted on 08/03/2007 3:08:42 PM PDT by mainerforglobalwarming
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To: Popman

Among others, the Gomez case. The Miami Herald and politicians are going nuts pushing what will be a dangerous path.


100 posted on 08/05/2007 5:31:57 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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