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To: discostu

Oh no! I’m not talking about her and short of my insane jealousy of the amount of babies she has, she’s my hero.

Now, look back on the posts of this thread. Very few are saying, don’t eat a BAG of Doritos. They are saying “eat less/move more. I know this and you are stupid if you don’t”

Sorry, but a cup of Doritos is not a healthy lunch. Yet in the “Eat less” way of life, 8 ounces of Doritos is “less” than a big salad. We need to start pushing, eat more of the good stuff and the bad stuff, push aside. That is what many don’t know.

I have a niece that is near 400 pounds. She is a binge/starve eater. That’s how she got that big in five years. She would starve herself and then when she went back to eating, her body packed on the pounds. Even eating right and in small amounts. She then gets discouraged and eats what she wants, only to pack on more pounds.

The starvation factor is never put into this. And it’s a mistake.


26 posted on 08/02/2007 4:56:35 PM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: netmilsmom
She then gets discouraged and eats what she wants

That's the psychological factor. Why does a person want to eat that much? You have to work on your coping mechanisms, as well as nutritional education ... just as I have to work on my alcohol consumption.

Oh, here's my lovely husband, the food pusher, with ice cream! I get the impression he wants us to have another baby next year, only he's trying to make it be "my fault" ...

29 posted on 08/02/2007 5:02:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick (All the main characters die, and then the Prince of Sweden delivers the Epilogue.)
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To: netmilsmom

Honestly anybody that doesn’t know about eat less and move more is stupid, or is in denial which means they actually know it they just aren’t acting on it. On the logical level, just talking the knowledge part here not the actual doing, weight control is really simple. It really honestly IS eat less exercise more, for better results you can add in make less of what you eat crap but again it’s pretty obvious. Anybody that would eat 8 ounces of Doritos instead a of large salad and think they should be losing weight that way is a moron, and I don’t just mean that in the insulting way I also imply the clinical diagnosis they might need a managed care facility. Anybody with the brains of a sixth grader knows salad is healthier than Doritos, heck even the stuff people of my mid-western heritage call salad (you know, macaroni salad, potato salad, other mayonnaise delivery systems) is healthier than most snack chips and any kid knows it.

And there’s a reason I’m pushing against you here, and it’s not just cussedness or rudeness. I think “it’s complicated” and “it’s hard” are two of the most often used excuses in this country and two of the lamest. And when people start tossing those excuses around for others to grasp it’s enabling, and we really shouldn’t enable bad habits. Sure there are hard parts to it, reducing your appetite is an unpleasant experience, exercise sucks, staying dedicated to the entire process for the months it takes to hit a goal takes a mental toughness most people don’t think they have (but they probably do). But it’s not complicated, it’s not hard to figure out. Losing weight is something anybody overweight reading this thread can start doing right now, all they have to do is not eat that next snack, don’t drink that next soda, and do a little walking during their next break. No that’s not going to result in anybody weighing 5 less pounds tomorrow, but it all starts with 1 less calorie taken in and 1 more calorie burned.

The starvation factor isn’t put into it because that’s a violation of it. Like the shrink said in the latest season of Celebrity Fit Club (guilty pleasure, I admit seeing celebrities, even B and C listers, struggle with their weight makes me feel better in a way that’s probably not psychologically healthy, but I always lose weight when I’m watching the show) “it’s eat LESS not eat nearly nothing”. Part of the eat less exercise more weight loss method is teaching yourself a new lifestyle so that when you reach your target you don’t balloon back. It’s not a crash diet, it’s not a quick fix, it’s not a temporary change, it is a new way of living. If she’s going into starvation mode then she’s not doing eat less exercise more.


74 posted on 08/03/2007 8:41:55 AM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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