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Dad beats, shoots and paralyzes Teen daughters lover
The Morning News of Northwest Arkansas ^ | 8-2-07 | Robin Mero

Posted on 08/02/2007 10:03:39 AM PDT by Serious Capitalist

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To: B-Chan
But to discharge a firearm blindly, especially into a room you know to be occupied? That’s just plain crazy.

That's the real problem here.

101 posted on 08/02/2007 10:48:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: gracesdad
Wow, I too am stunned at the number of FReeper who think shooting their daughter’s boyfriend is OK.

How many of you who defend killing for sexual misconduct consider yourselves Christians?

You are all one small step away from justifying honor killings. Unbelievable.

And yes, I raised a daughter to adulthood who is doing very well and I never had to resort to beating or killing her boyfriends. I would be happy to sit on the jury that will help put that miscreant father behind bars for life where he belongs.

102 posted on 08/02/2007 10:48:39 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: ChildOfThe60s
If you really mean that,..............

Jeez, can't you recognize a little joking?

103 posted on 08/02/2007 10:49:30 AM PDT by umgud ("When illegals are banned, only greedy businesses and welfare providers will have them)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

This is the feminist mindset , girls innocent and pure like the wind driven snow and boys the vicious predatory wolves.
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As a father of 2 daughters, I would suggest that this is the dad mindset, not the feminist mindset.


104 posted on 08/02/2007 10:49:42 AM PDT by dmz
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To: ElkGroveDan
Obviously you have never been a father of a young girl.

Ain't that the truth.

When you are the father of a boy, you only have to worry about what one ---.

When you are the father of a girl, you have to worry about all of them.

105 posted on 08/02/2007 10:50:25 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Temporary Insanity Plea.

Who wants to be the anti-gun prosecutors will demand no fathers be permitted on the jury?

(he is still stupid, just need to point out the defense)


106 posted on 08/02/2007 10:50:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: stuartcr

Yeah, he just wounded the b@$t@rd!!!!

He needs better control of his gun.

But then, in Arkansas, I guess the age of consent is twelve.


107 posted on 08/02/2007 10:51:59 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Sirloin
Yep, these types of threads bring out the jerks.

This dad is a complete idiot. If I was king I'd shoot him in the back, severing his spinal cord...

Yep, jerks is as jerks does

Maybe then he would know the meaning of overreaction.

Overreaction....hmmmm

No, I do NOT agree with what this man did.

108 posted on 08/02/2007 10:52:37 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: ZULU
But then, in Arkansas, I guess the age of consent is twelve.

At least it wasn't his nephew he was shooting...

109 posted on 08/02/2007 10:53:27 AM PDT by kjam22 (see me play the guitar here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHy7Cuoucc)
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To: MediaMole
If you read the full article, this was a premeditated act by the father. He set up his daughter and her boyfriend to catch them in the act. He beat the boyfriend, refused to allow him to leave the house, then went into another room to get a gun and shot blindly into the closet.

The article says nothing of the sort, telling me you didn't read it. He did not refuse to let him leave. The young man barricaded himself in the room and possibly had even attacked him according to the father's claims. He claims to have shot high and low at the door, not blindly into the room. And then waited patiently for police.

If the bullet holes prove his story, the father will probably be acquitted. Meanwhile, the young man should be charged with statutory rape and tresspassing.

I don't see premeditation here at all.

110 posted on 08/02/2007 10:53:36 AM PDT by Andrew Byler
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To: ChildOfThe60s
As a matter of fact, for all we know he could have been trying to shoot both of them. Rationalize that.

I am not trying to justify the fathers behavior. I'm saying the article's use of the description, "beat bloody with a cue stick" would appear to be an overstatement. It was probably information provided by the daughter.

111 posted on 08/02/2007 10:53:46 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Where do we go from here?)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Obviously you have never been a father of a young girl.

Not So. I have an adult daughter, that yes, was a young girl at one time. And had she been assaulted by a male against her will at any age, I would have beaten the crap out of the male or much worse.

When my daughter was 17 she was entirely cognizant of what she was doing at all times. If she had been having consensual sex with a boy that was within 2 years of her age, I'd have been royally pissed because I taught her the folly of such behavior. But to try to murder her and the boy? If you noted, she was behind the door also.

Would you shoot a gun through a closed bedroom door with your daughter on the other side? Answer that.

112 posted on 08/02/2007 10:54:23 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: wideawake

Especially since his only options for targets now will be armed prison guards and police officers.


113 posted on 08/02/2007 10:54:47 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Or was he going after both of them?

Of course he was. It was an attempted American honor killing - the kind we like to pretend only Muslims engage in.

114 posted on 08/02/2007 10:55:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: -YYZ-
More details here

Some excerpts:

The teenagers decided Guzman would come over Tuesday when her parents left. He arrived about 9:30 a.m., parking his teal Toyota Tercell down the street. Morgan drove there to pick him up. They went to the bedroom and "eventually fell asleep," according to a probable cause affidavit filed by Investigator Jeremy Felton of the Benton County Sheriff's Office.

Her dad called just before 11 a.m. to ask how things were going, which was unusual, Morgan told police. A few minutes later, she heard her dad pull up in his truck and go into the garage. Guzman climbed into her closet. Her dad came inside asking, "Where is he?" Morgan tried to pretend nothing was unusual, but eventually pointed to the closet, court documents state.

Reed opened the door to find Guzman sitting with his back to the wall. Reed began beating Guzman in the face with the pool stick. Morgan said Guzman kept saying, "Stop, I'll leave," but her dad wouldn't stop even though Guzman was bleeding, she told police.

Reed left the bedroom, the teenagers closed the door and began pulling Morgan's dresser in front of it. Someone then fired four shots through the bedroom door. After the first shot, Guzman turned away from the door and was struck in the back with a bullet. He immediately couldn't feel or move his legs, Morgan told police.

When police arrived, Reed was waiting on the front porch.

In an interview with Felton, Reed said he'd warned Guzman not to come around without a chaperone. He said a friend called that morning to say Guzman's car was parked down the road. Reed called his wife and their youth pastor to say he was going to the house to check it out. Upon arrival, he got a pool stick from the garage to defend himself, court documents state.

When he entered his daughter's bedroom, he saw Morgan adjusting her clothes and the bed messy. He assumed the teenagers had sex. He opened the closet door, yelled for Guzman to get out of the house, and Guzman began kicking him in the legs, he told Felton. He admitted hitting Guzman with the pool stick.

Reed said he went to his bedroom and retrieved a loaded gun from his nightstand. He went to the bedroom and fired "warning shots up high." He then fired shots toward the bottom of the door. He heard Guzman yell he was shot, so he backed away from the door and put the gun back into the nightstand drawer. His wife arrived and told him to wait on the porch for deputies, court documents state.


115 posted on 08/02/2007 10:55:48 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Marko413

The age of consent is 17 in Arkansas, so no possible charges apply given the consensual nature of it.


116 posted on 08/02/2007 10:56:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Serious Capitalist
I suppose there is a certain irony about the boyfriend probably ending up with no feeling below the waist .... he certainly won't be in a position to mess with anyone else's little girl again.

On the other hand, the father must be a complete moron who deserves to spend the rest of his life in jail: not only did he overreact (a beating should have been quite sufficient), but he fired into the room without regard for whom he might injure, the boyfriend or his daughter.

With Daddy going away, the girls family will be a shambles and whatever her future plans may have been, they'll undoubtedly be revised downward. IF he has any assets, he'll surely lose them in the civil lawsuit the boy will file. In trying "protect" his daughter, he's ruined his entire family's life, probably permanently. Way to go, Dad!

117 posted on 08/02/2007 10:57:05 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: wideawake

Oops, got the names confued. DAD will now only have armed LEOs and prison guards for targets of his violent outbursts.


118 posted on 08/02/2007 10:57:08 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Ajnin
Too bad for Guzman, perhaps he learned his lesson.

What a disgusting thing to say. The teenager is now paralyzed for life from a shotgun blast. The father should spend the rest of his days in jail.
119 posted on 08/02/2007 10:57:19 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: wideawake

I guess you haven’t met a lot of women ...

LOL!!!


120 posted on 08/02/2007 10:57:27 AM PDT by Edward Watson (Fanatics with guns beat liberals with ideas)
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