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Breaking: Bridge Collapse in Minneapolis
KSTP TV 5/ME | 8/1/07 | Me

Posted on 08/01/2007 4:28:27 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

Just turned on the news. 35W bridge collapsed in the Mississippi River. Cars, trucks, semis.....

Fires burning, tanker trucks, at least one school bus, more than ten cars......

Just now breaking.......


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 35w; breaking; bridge; bridgecollapse; bridges; btld; collapse; corrosion; engineering; infrastructure; jihad; minneapolis; mosques; mothman; prayerforminnesotans; rust; slownewsday; terroristattack; transportation; twincitiescell
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To: spunkets

Holy cow! Check this out:

http://www.startribune.com/10204/story/1343624.html

“At the site, Hoeppner talked to construction workers who survived the fall. They had been doing repair work but expressed concern to him that the bridge had been wobbling several days before it collapsed. Every layer of concrete the workers removed, the bridge would wobble even more, they told Hoeppner.”


2,581 posted on 08/04/2007 9:46:25 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: jeffers

See my post above.


2,582 posted on 08/04/2007 9:49:56 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: jeffers
I’m still having trouble with this.

Try this for a simple explanation. Most members exist to transfer force from a support to a load; this force will generally be parallel to the member in question. If the support applies force toward the load, the member will be under compression; if the support applies force away from the load, it will be under tension.

Starting at the place where the truss is supported by the pier, it should be clear that the pier exists to supply upward force. Therefore, any structural members that go up away from the pier will most likely be under compression (at least when the bridge is performing as designed). I'll see if I can draw you a picture.

2,583 posted on 08/04/2007 9:56:08 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Article regarding the victims....

I’m surprised they included this statement:

“Trinidad-Mena died while returning across the bridge from a personal errand. He and his wife, Abundia Martinez, had a 2-month-old daughter,Trinidad-Mena and Martinez have been living illegally in Minneapolis after he traveled from Mexico about 10 years ago, she told The Associated Press.”
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/08/03/bridge.victims/index.html


2,584 posted on 08/04/2007 10:02:53 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Abigail Adams

A chair with three good legs and one loose.


2,585 posted on 08/04/2007 10:12:26 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
A chair with three good legs and one loose

And a rowdy kid bouncing on it.

2,586 posted on 08/04/2007 10:17:51 AM PDT by bannie (The Good Guys cannot win when they're the only ones to play by the rules.)
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To: blam
My cousin's son was pulling people out of the Mississippi River in Minneapolis. He was a volunteer moving a friend's sister out of an apartment. Three cheers for my cousin's kid and apparently, the media has been calling their house constantly. The kid's been on Fox - Morning, Shep, Edie Donahey, Nancy Grace, Larry King, local news. I'm gonna google him for myself but not giving out his name. Geraldo is absent so far on the bridge disaster. He hasn't come near my relative or on scene at all. Maybe tonight he'll show up in scuba gear on Fox.

His mom barely missed being on the bridge but her work pkg space was stolen so she had to park further from work downtown. It took her an additional five minutes to get to her car after work. She's lucky to be alive.

Watching the video of the collapse, the cars that didn't make it were swept up with water and then slammed down back onto the concrete. The water wasn't that deep either. It was horrific. I had no idea the Misssissippi was so brown.

2,587 posted on 08/04/2007 11:14:02 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: Halls

see my last post.


2,588 posted on 08/04/2007 11:16:37 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

The best bridge inspectors are in Florida. They have to deal with more elements.


2,589 posted on 08/04/2007 11:23:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

At a press conference an official said the 35 was “partially inspected” and then they stopped to do the work on the top. They never got the chance to complete their inspection. Maybe that’s not such a hot idea to do a partial.


2,590 posted on 08/04/2007 11:25:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: finnman69; DakotaGator; All

The sides folded and the south end shifted. The south end shifting would account for the twisted steel. Did you notice on the precipices that the cement roadway has some kind of heavy fabric or material handing down? What is the purpose of that fabric within the layers of cement. Anybody know?


2,591 posted on 08/04/2007 11:29:10 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: Bushbacker1

Shep needs to cut back on the brewskies. He’s getting a beer gut. I’m just sayin’.


2,592 posted on 08/04/2007 11:30:05 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: angcat

You know, the FBI is there too. As of today, nobody’s discussed plastic explosives. I’m not convinced it was just a structural accident.


2,593 posted on 08/04/2007 11:32:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: steveo

D.C. is on high alert this weekend. The prez isn’t there but he ordered congress to stay at work.


2,594 posted on 08/04/2007 11:34:40 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: floriduh voter

Hey FV, WOW you must be proud. I think I saw an interview of your cousins son, if it is the same person, but I think it is. Kind of young guy? Yeah, I think is him.


2,595 posted on 08/04/2007 11:38:07 AM PDT by Halls (Vote for a Constitutionalist!!!!!!)
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To: DugwayDuke

There was a cement truck on the bridge too. I don’t know if it had cement in it at the time but that would have been very heavy.


2,596 posted on 08/04/2007 11:38:11 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: null and void

You’re right. rust never sleeps and if something rusts from the inside out, it can’t be seen.


2,597 posted on 08/04/2007 11:39:35 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This is like diving into a shallow pool. The crushed cars and in twisted metal are heartwrenching also. My cousin just missed going on from downtown.


2,598 posted on 08/04/2007 11:44:44 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: floriduh voter

Kudos to your cousin’s son!

It really is intersting that they only did a partial inspection before starting the construction. Not smart. I bet they were concerned about a deadline for finishing the construction before winter.

I wonder if any of those construction workers notified MNDOT about the wobbling they felt days before the collapse?


2,599 posted on 08/04/2007 11:47:53 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: maggief
I bought some patio stones. They were made out of cheaper cement and they are very fragile. I studied a broken one before I threw it away. The cement is held together with stringy, plastic mesh. If they were using cheap cement, that may be a factor.

Do you know there was a cement short during the construction boom last year? I'd want info on the cement.

So far, crickets chirping on the grade of cement and no reporters have asked about it that I've seen.

2,600 posted on 08/04/2007 11:48:30 AM PDT by floriduh voter (Terri's List - 8mmmauser & DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT)
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