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Jeering mob of children 'stoned father to death as he played cricket' (UK)
The Daily Mail - UK ^ | 1st August 2007 | OLINKA KOSTER

Posted on 07/31/2007 5:36:50 PM PDT by fanfan

A gang of children killed a father-of-two by stoning him as he played a makeshift game of cricket with his son, a court has heard.

They surrounded a tennis court where Ernest Norton and his teenage son had set up a wicket and hurled bricks and debris in a "completely unprovoked attack".

Mr Norton, 67, collapsed in a pool of blood after being hit by a piece of rock and died from heart failure, the Old Bailey was told.

The gang, some as young as ten, then ran away and allegedly a witness heard one say, "Did you get him?" and others replying: "Yeah I think so."

Five boys, all aged 13 or under at the time of the onslaught last year, are accused of unlawfully killing Mr Norton, a retired engineering draughtsman. None can be named for legal reasons.

The court heard that the boys, all from Kent, were members of a gang called TNE - The New Estate - who had planned to take part in a "gang fight" earlier the same day.

Instead they went to the leisure centre in Erith, Kent, where Mr Norton and his 17-year-old son James were spending their Sunday afternoon playing cricket on the centre's tennis courts.

David Fisher QC, prosecuting, said the boys carried out a "completely unnecessary, pointless and random attack."

He added: "A group of about ten to 15 youths gathered by the fencing surrounding the courts and began shouting abuse at Ernest Norton and his son. These five defendants were part of that group.

"As the abuse worsened, they began throwing stones and pieces of wood.

"Ernest Norton was struck at least twice on the head by these missiles and one of the stones hit him on his left side of his face, causing a fracture to his cheekbone.

"He collapsed and suffered a heart attack. Nobody relishes the fact that these five boys are on trial at the Central Criminal Court for the serious crime of manslaughter. But their youth is no defence.

"I expect they deeply regret the death of Ernest Norton and there is no doubt they did not intend that he should die. But it was their course of conduct, quite probably with others, that caused his death."

The attack happened on February 26 last year while Mr Norton's wife Linda was in the leisure centre using the gym.

He and his son went off to play cricket, entering the tennis courts through a gate and locking it behind them.

They set up the game and James started bowling while his father stood behind the stumps. Then James saw a group of up to 20 youths approaching.

"They started shouting insults, mostly saying James was a rubbish bowler", said Mr Fisher.

"To his father they were saying 'Go back to your old people's home'."

"While some of the boys left, five to seven began throwing stones, rocks and pieces of wood at the pair, with two attempting to climb the 9ft-high wire fence surrounding the courts."

When Mr Norton collapsed, his son ran to the leisure centre for help. A policeman and ambulance crews tried to revive Mr Norton, but he died at the scene.

One local woman saw a group of boys running away from the scene and heard one shout, "Oh no" and another exclaim, "He's dead."

Another witness heard one say "Did you get him?" and others replying '"Yeah, I think so."

A post-mortem found Mr Norton, who had a triple bypass operation in 1977 but was in good health, died as a result of heart disease alleged to have been brought on by the stress of the attack. He also left a 25-year-old daughter.

All the boys, who were each accompanied by a parent in the dock, are on bail. They deny manslaughter and violent disorder.

The trial continues.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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To: fanfan

Here is another instance where they do recognize them as muslim gang members:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/reg_showarticle.php?contentID=2620


61 posted on 07/31/2007 6:40:14 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: fanfan
You know, by not really making them completely responsible for their actions, we enable kids to do some pretty hideous things. A 13 year old knows right from wrong, and while they may not have the best impulse control, how many 13 year olds do you know who would kill someone? Most wouldn’t. Those who would should be disposed of. I hate to sound harsh, but I cannot imagine these *youngsters* growing up to be productive adults. This makes me so angry.
I’d also like to know more about their parents. While good parents CAN produce awful kids, I suspect that most of the monsters produced had parents who weren’t doing any kind of job raising them, and in my mind they share culpability.
susie
62 posted on 07/31/2007 6:41:04 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: fanfan

Is Islam involved?


63 posted on 07/31/2007 6:46:12 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: fanfan
The world has gone mad.

I say the same thing almost every day. It really seems to be going that way.

64 posted on 07/31/2007 6:53:14 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: fanfan

Yet another of the countless examples that we see of why everyone should carry a firearm. I think a few warning shots well over their heads would have stopped all of this.


65 posted on 07/31/2007 6:58:12 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Dad yer funny
btw ,.. great text on your Home Page , aruanan

Thanks, it was sort of a summary of Joan Peters's From Time Immemorial: The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over Palestine.
66 posted on 07/31/2007 6:58:18 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Xenalyte
 

 

 

James Doohan or Scotty had two kids when he was eighty and I  'd like to say that sounds like a really bad idea

67 posted on 07/31/2007 6:59:19 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: brytlea
...how many 13 year olds do you know who would kill someone? Most wouldn’t. Those who would should be disposed of. I hate to sound harsh, but I cannot imagine these *youngsters* growing up to be productive adults.

That makes 2 of us.

If you're that corrupt at what is supposed to be such a tender age, you aren't getting any better. The world is better off without this kind of rubbish.
68 posted on 07/31/2007 7:12:14 PM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Shorn, dumb and bleating is no way to go through life, son." Yeah, close enough.)
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To: fanfan
for the serious crime of manslaughter.

Sounds more like murder to me. And what group of folks routinely uses stoning to kill people? Apparently, one that can't be named in the press.

69 posted on 07/31/2007 7:16:17 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Grizzled Bear

This is the case for FRed. Do you think this will be a problem for him?

As to the crime, these punks needed Super Nanny in the home a LONG time ago. What a tragedy!


70 posted on 07/31/2007 7:33:33 PM PDT by Anti-Hillary (Anyone but Hitlery)
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To: fanfan

clockwork orange


71 posted on 07/31/2007 7:57:56 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Reagan dismantled the Russian communist empire despite the Democrats and the MSM)
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To: Finny

Note that all mention of the criminals’ ethnicity is - very carefully - avoided. Toxic political correctness at its worst.


72 posted on 07/31/2007 8:22:54 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: null and void

That is absolutely terrible. The Democrats must of corrupted the youth.


73 posted on 07/31/2007 8:43:41 PM PDT by bp1310
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To: JimC214

Don’t be confused, killing and murder are not the same. For example, killing someone in self-defense would be lawful. It’s a common mistake though.


74 posted on 07/31/2007 8:43:52 PM PDT by Emo4SC (Disclaimer: All thoughts expressed here are not my own, but merely what I've been told by Talk Radio)
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To: Grizzled Bear

This tragic case has been reported in most UK papers. My thoughts go out to this man and his family. Unfortunately, these sorts of mindless crimes have always been around, I think, in most countries. Thankfully, the very presence of this case in the UK press shows that such crimes are still abnormal.

Unfortunately, the UK does seem to have imported a US-style gang culture in some Urban areas. There have been a few people tragically killed recently over ‘respect’ and all of that nonsense.

GB: Page 3 is still distracting millions of people from actual news every day ;-)


75 posted on 08/01/2007 2:38:05 AM PDT by uksupport1
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To: Holicheese
You didn’t fix it; you’re just giving Bill O’Reilly more ammunition.
76 posted on 08/01/2007 4:18:18 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: fanfan

“To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society.” - Teddy Roosevelt


77 posted on 08/01/2007 4:24:59 AM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: uksupport1

For once these little gobshites were not immoes; they were local white English from nearby public housing.
I dont know this area that well, only from driving along the Main road between London and Canterbury to Dover.
The town is called Erith apparently, and the surrounding area can be best described as being to London what Hoboken, Bayonne, or Jersey City are to New York.
It looks a nasty place; I have read that undesirable families who have been kicked out of public housing in central London are often rehoused there. That, combined with ‘Children’s Activists’ within the criminal justice system, is why we see these cases.

Oh and you are not allowed to call gangs ‘gangs’ anymore. London Mayor Livingstone has decreed that from now on they must be referred to as ‘Disadvantaged Pedestrian Groups’.
Staff working for the GLA (Greater London Authority) who say something inappropriate are ‘requested’ to attend something called a ‘Social Induction Class’. Hummm. Can any Freeper say what that could be ?


78 posted on 08/01/2007 5:32:40 AM PDT by jabbermog
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To: GAB-1955

Bill O’Reilly can go screw. He is a pimply old man.


79 posted on 08/01/2007 5:39:47 AM PDT by Holicheese (Zap Razdowler Rules!)
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To: fanfan
"I expect they deeply regret the death of Ernest Norton and there is no doubt they did not intend that he should die. But it was their course of conduct, quite probably with others, that caused his death."

Oh, yeah, I bet the only thing they regret is being caught.

80 posted on 08/01/2007 7:37:39 AM PDT by calex59
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