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Floods show global warming is here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk ^ | 28/07/2007 | Charles Clover

Posted on 07/28/2007 11:16:09 AM PDT by Reagan is King

As Britain counts the costs of the worst floods in 200 years, Charles Clover argues the signs of global warming are now impossible to ignore A still from the Robert Carlyle film, Flood

Big Ben, the London Eye and Westminster Abbey awash. The submerged streets of London indistinguishable from the Thames. Admittedly, the above image, arresting as it is, is the stuff of cinematic trickery. But could it happen? One day, if we are not careful, it just might.

Of course, nowhere in the country are flood defences built to a higher standard than in London, because of the value, strategic and otherwise, of what lies behind them, so Trafalgar Square is unlikely ever to be as vulnerable as Tewkesbury, even though most of the capital is on a flood plain.

But if the floods of this week have taught us anything, it is that few events can be more extraordinary than the weather - and there is plenty of reason to think long and hard about the extraordinary weather we have recently been experiencing.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: chickenlittle; climatechange; floods; globalfarce; globalwarming; hysteria
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To: RightWhale
It must be removed from the hands of amateurs such as Algore and put under the rules of debate of Congress.

That's an improvement?
Just asking.

61 posted on 07/28/2007 5:25:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
No one up there anyway and as Hiroshima and Nagaski proved, the land will be habitable relatively quickly.

The other conspiracy. I understand it was actually done in a studio.

Have you actually been to Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

Just asking.

62 posted on 07/28/2007 5:27:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Finny
Relation of the Voyage of Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo, 1542-1543

http://www.americanjourneys.org/pdf/AJ-001.pdf

63 posted on 07/28/2007 5:37:01 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

“Have you actually been to Hiroshima and Nagasaki?”

Personally, no. Friends and family have been there.


64 posted on 07/28/2007 5:49:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")
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To: saganite

And, whose fault is it?


65 posted on 07/28/2007 5:54:47 PM PDT by steve8714
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To: Reagan is King
"As Britain counts the costs of the worst floods in 200 years, Charles Clover argues the signs of global warming are now impossible to ignore"

Charles, you're obviously a genious. Tell me. What caused the same magnitude floods 200 years ago?

66 posted on 07/28/2007 5:56:17 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: Reagan is King

It is possible to ignore global warming because its natural and we cannot do anything to stop it.


67 posted on 07/28/2007 5:57:43 PM PDT by omega4179 (is it Global war against global Jihad yet?)
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To: tcrlaf

OR What did Mankind do to trigger the last Ice age then what Co2 emissions ended it?


68 posted on 07/28/2007 5:59:18 PM PDT by omega4179 (is it Global war against global Jihad yet?)
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To: Reagan is King

Floods=global warming is an explanation that appeals only to simpletons looking to be provided with a readymade posture on an issue that precludes any further thinking while also providing them with a “we-care” attitude and some semblance of scientific “sophistication” as they dutifully parrot the talking points. Don’t ever try to dig deeper-—all you’ll get is more talking points, until even those run out, in no time, and you’ll finally be insulted as a idiot rightwinger, as these Goreheads about-face and get out as fast as they can.


69 posted on 07/28/2007 6:06:54 PM PDT by supremedoctrine ("Happiness makes up in height for what it lacks in length"----Robert Frost)
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To: Texas Eagle
"As Britain counts the costs of the worst floods in 200 years, Charles Clover argues the signs of global warming are now impossible to ignore..."

Yo, Clive. Or Jeeves or whatever your name is, if it wasn't for Global Warming, Great Britain wouldn't even exist.

90,000 years ago, The Land of Tea and Crumpets was under a thousand feet of glaciers.

THAT is a FRameable post. Every Republican politician should have a framed copy in his office!

70 posted on 07/28/2007 6:09:58 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: steve8714

Karl Rove. He’s dialed down the hurricane machine the past few years just to piss off and confound the enviro whackos.


71 posted on 07/28/2007 6:10:11 PM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Reagan is King
The great floods of 1947

Sixty years ago Britain suffered floods similar to those seen this week. Back then, the deluge came after heavy snow, and Canada sent food parcels. By Martin Wainwright

Britain is no world-beater when it comes to flood prevention and control, but the country has few equals in putting up memorials to great soakings of the past. Everywhere from York to Gloucester via London, notched poles mark the riversides, engraved with historic high-water levels.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/weather/Story/0,,2134122,00.html

There have been many in Britain -- but 1947 is the one that the Guardian (of all papers) chose to compare to present conditions.
72 posted on 07/28/2007 6:12:56 PM PDT by Jackson Brown (Conservatives just killed their racehorse in order to let their fortunes ride on a jackass)
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To: Gondring

Looking at that pic, two words come to mind and their initials is “FM.”


73 posted on 07/28/2007 6:14:52 PM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Reagan is King

The acholites of the new faith might as well say the fact night follows day is proof of human created global warming.

I guess since we now make enough food to feed the world, the poverty creation industry needs a new way to create suffering.


74 posted on 07/28/2007 6:20:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Gondring

No not creationism. Though secular evolution does remind me of global warming in some ways. Particularly the insistent on blurring the gulf between organisms and purposely ignoring epigenetic differences while making assertions that man and apes are only slightly different genetically.

I hear so often these wonderful fairy tales being woven as if they are facts assigning purpose to evolutionary events as if the organisms were somehow driving their own evolution. The insistence on the purist idea of no purposeful mechanism in evolution while writing stories that act as if one moth consciously mimicked the genetics of a bad tasting moth so as to avoid being eaten. I believe the evolutionary process is an intelligent extraordinarily complex one.

We no more understand the extent of that complexity than we do that of climate. The arrogance is in proclaiming the debate is over because one group of scientists or politicians do not wish to acknowledge the debate.


75 posted on 07/28/2007 6:49:33 PM PDT by Maelstorm (When ideas are considered equal regardless of content, then arriving at truth becomes an accident.)
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To: Reagan is King

Hmmm. The worst in 200 years. So does that mean that there were terrible floods in the past, but for the last 200 years they haven’t been that bad? So if it’s Global Warming causing THESE floods, does it also mean that the floods in the past were caused by Global Warming? Inquiring minds want to know.


76 posted on 07/28/2007 7:10:17 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Reagan is King

Most hurricanes hit the U.S. in the months of September and October after the ocean has warmed through the summer months.

Last year was a bust for global warming alarmists, but they still have a shot this year.


77 posted on 07/28/2007 8:08:25 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Reagan is King

And on the other hand, this article has an astounding theory about global warming and floods:

Water Experts Find Earth’s Warming, Rainfall Linked to Sun

By Dennis T. Avery, Hudson Institute
Tuesday, July 24, 2007

A team of water experts says the pattern of droughts and floods in South Africa shows our global warming was triggered by the variability of the sun’s irradiance rather than by human-emitted CO2. They say variations in South African rainfall patterns are keyed to periodic reversals of the sun’s magnetic field—and to the constantly changing distance between the sun and the earth as both move through space.

In South Africa, alternate 11-year sunspot cycles produce opposite rainfall results. One complete “double sun cycle” occurs every 20.8 years: the “first” cycle brings a big flood, followed by a small drought; the next brings a big drought, followed by a small flood.


78 posted on 07/28/2007 8:15:21 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: Beowulf
A complete list of things caused by global warming.
79 posted on 07/28/2007 11:37:05 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: steelyourfaith

What about flatulence and male breasts?


80 posted on 07/29/2007 3:39:12 AM PDT by steve8714
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